[kj] Gathering Digest, Vol 168, Issue 24

Sat Jan 28 10:32:28 EST 2017

Amusing. I can't speak for whether it's been 'demonised' or not. I think accuracy is perhaps a better issue to focus on, no? 

On Sat, 28/1/17, kevin <patrickvieira at msn.com> wrote:

 Subject: Re: [kj] Gathering Digest, Vol 168, Issue 24
 To: "gathering at misera.net" <gathering at misera.net>
 Date: Saturday, 28 January, 2017, 15:16

 I just trawl alternative media Alex.
 Breitbart has been spot on with a lot of things.
 But of course it has been demonsed so i`m not supposed to
 look at it.

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 You?re using Breitbart as a credible source?

 Alex in NYC

 > On Jan 28, 2017, at 10:01 AM, kevin
 <patrickvieira at msn.com> wrote:

 > 

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 > 
 http://www.breitbart.com/london/2017/01/27/trumps-prospective-eu-ambassador-ttip-dead/
 <http://www.breitbart.com/london/2017/01/27/trumps-prospective-eu-ambassador-ttip-dead/>

 Trump's
 Prospective EU Ambassador: TTIP is Dead

 www.breitbart.com

 The economist and academic hotly tipped to be President
 Trump's ambassador to the European Union told the
 Breitbart News Daily Show that "TTIP is a non
 starter" and won't progress under the Trump
 administration.

 Trump's
 Prospective EU Ambassador: TTIP is Dead

 www.breitbart.com

 The economist and academic hotly tipped to be President
 Trump's ambassador to the European Union told the
 Breitbart News Daily Show that "TTIP is a non
 starter" and won't progress under the Trump
 administration.

 >  <http://www.breitbart.com/london/2017/01/27/trumps-prospective-eu-ambassador-ttip-dead/>    

 Trump's
 Prospective EU Ambassador: TTIP is Dead

 www.breitbart.com

 The economist and academic hotly tipped to be President
 Trump's ambassador to the European Union told the
 Breitbart News Daily Show that "TTIP is a non
 starter" and won't progress under the Trump
 administration.

 > Trump's Prospective EU Ambassador: TTIP is Dead
 <http://www.breitbart.com/london/2017/01/27/trumps-prospective-eu-ambassador-ttip-dead/>

 Trump's
 Prospective EU Ambassador: TTIP is Dead

 www.breitbart.com

 The economist and academic hotly tipped to be President
 Trump's ambassador to the European Union told the
 Breitbart News Daily Show that "TTIP is a non
 starter" and won't progress under the Trump
 administration.

 > www.breitbart.com <http://www.breitbart.com/>

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 > The economist and academic hotly tipped to be President
 Trump's ambassador to the European Union told the
 Breitbart News Daily Show that "TTIP is a non
 starter" and won't progress under the Trump
 administration.

 > 

 > 

 > 

 > > On Jan 28, 2017, at 9:02 AM, kevin
 <patrickvieira at msn.com <mailto:patrickvieira at msn.com>>
 wrote:

 > > 

 > > That`s why I made a differentation and said
 `presumably dying.`

 > > So lets wait and see what happens with the TIPP.

 > > As for talking crap. Well on the day that I walk
 past a TV and SKY news are

 > > reporting on `what this spraying programme is` and
 `why the public shouldn`t be alarmed` I`ll get

 > > back to you on that.

 > > 

 > > Alex- me typing  3 days worth of wall taxt
 isn`t going to mak any difference to what you think.

 > > 

 > > 

 > > From: Gathering <gathering-bounces at misera.net
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 > > Message: 1

 > > Date: Fri, 27 Jan 2017 20:27:26 -0000

 > > From: "Mike Cooper"
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 > > Aren't TTIP and TPP completely different
 things?  I thought the former was

 > > concerning the deals for corporations and
 government which Trump The C.

 > > would almost certainly support and the latter a
 trade deal with pacific

 > > nations which he has ended.

 > > 

 > >  

 > > 

 > > Oh and by the way Kev you're talking crap.

 > > 

 > >  

 > > 

 > > From: Gathering [mailto:gathering-bounces at misera.net
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 > > Sent: 27 January 2017 06:57

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 > > Subject: Re: [kj] Gathering Digest, Vol 168, Issue
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 > > 

 > >  

 > > 

 > > I`m happy Trump got in. Fucking overjoyed
 actually.

 > > 

 > > Seem to recall there was a post on here around
 August from someone in the UK

 > > I think 

 > > 

 > > declaring he didn`t have a prayer. Mmmm.

 > > 

 > >  

 > > 

 > > I think Jaz mentioned he was more relieved that
 Hillary didn`t get in but he

 > > seems to change his views like the weather on
 these things.

 > > 

 > > He seemed to be really revelling in teasing the UK
 audiences about `How is

 > > your Brexit going?` etc but I also heard he was
 `50/50` on that

 > > 

 > > (strange for someone who seems to jump on people
 for being `fence sitters.`)

 > > 

 > > Jaz ws very outspoken on TIPP so now Trump has
 killed TPP I`m sure he is

 > > revelling in that presumably dying..

 > > 

 > >  

 > > 

 > > I don`t think BPF likes him but can`t speak for
 others. He put up a John

 > > Pilger piece which was very anti Trump during the
 election..

 > > 

 > > Geordie no idea but a big supporter of EU so I
 hear.

 > > 

 > >  

 > > 

 > > Youth I assume is wearing a Pink Pussy hat and
 waving a placard with a

 > > crying polar bear on it or something...

 > > 

 > >  

 > > 

 > >  

 > > 

 > > 

 > > 

 > > Message: 3

 > > Date: Thu, 26 Jan 2017 20:25:03 -0500

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 > > At the risk of possibly re-igniting the surreally
 hostile thread I

 > > participated in back in November (wherein certain
 member of our estimable

 > > collective got a bit combative on the subject of
 the election to the point

 > > where I actually left the fold for a bit), I?m
 wondering how everyone?s

 > > feeling only six days into the era of Trump as
 President.

 > > 

 > > My feelings haven?t changed. I still believe it
 was an incalculable mistake.

 > > 

 > > But what about you?

 > > 

 > > More relevant to this list ? where are Messrs.
 Coleman, Walker, Glover and

 > > Ferguson? I know Youth has weighed in periodically
 on FB about Trump (he,

 > > unsurprisingly, does not appear to be a acolyte),
 but I?m positively gagging

 > > to hear what Jaz and BPF have to say about him.

 > > 

 > > Anyway, let?s hear your thoughts. I promise not to
 swan off like jilted prom

 > > queen. I?m just wondering what this largely
 Euro-centric (right?) group of

 > > folks have to say at this point.

 > > 

 > > The mood here in NYC, suffice to say, is not
 positive.

 > > 

 > > Cheers, you fuckers.

 > > 

 > > Alex in NYC.

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 > > You are correct Mike. The TIPP involves only the
 US and the EU. It's a separate beast entirely.

 > > 

 > > Jim.

 > > 

 > > On Fri, 27/1/17, Mike Cooper
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 > >  Subject: Re: [kj] Gathering Digest, Vol 168,
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 > >  To: "'A list about all things
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 > >  Date: Friday, 27 January, 2017, 20:27

 > >  

 > >  

 > >  Aren?t TTIP and TPP completely

 > >  different things?? I thought the former was
 concerning the

 > >  deals for corporations and government which
 Trump The C?

 > >  would almost certainly support and the
 latter a trade deal

 > >  with pacific nations which he has ended. ?Oh
 and by the way Kev you?re

 > >  talking crap. ?From: Gathering

 > >  [mailto:gathering-bounces at misera.net
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 > >  kevin

 > >  Sent: 27 January 2017

 > >  06:57

 > >  To: gathering at misera.net <mailto:gathering at misera.net>
 <mailto:gathering at misera.net <mailto:gathering at misera.net>>

 > >  Subject: Re: [kj] Gathering Digest, Vol

 > >  168, Issue 15 ?I`m happy Trump got in.
 Fucking

 > >  overjoyed actually.Seem to recall there was
 a post on

 > >  here around August from someone in the UK I
 think

 > >  declaring he didn`t have a prayer.

 > >  Mmmm.

 > >  ?I think Jaz

 > >  mentioned he was more relieved that Hillary
 didn`t get in

 > >  but he seems to change his views like the
 weather on these

 > >  things.He seemed to be really revelling

 > >  in teasing the UK audiences about `How is
 your Brexit

 > >  going?` etc but I also heard he was `50/50`
 on

 > >  that(strange for someone who seems to

 > >  jump on people for being `fence
 sitters.`)Jaz

 > >  ws very outspoken on TIPP so now Trump has
 killed TPP I`m

 > >  sure he is revelling in that presumably
 dying.. ?I don`t think BPF likes him but

 > >  can`t speak for others. He put up a John
 Pilger piece which

 > >  was very anti Trump during the
 election..Geordie no idea but a big

 > >  supporter of EU so I hear. ?Youth I assume
 is wearing a Pink

 > >  Pussy hat and waving a placard with a crying
 polar bear on

 > >  it or something... ?

 > >  ?

 > >  

 > >  Message: 3

 > >  Date: Thu, 26 Jan

 > >  2017 20:25:03 -0500

 > >  From: Alexander Smith

 > >  <vassifer at earthlink.net <mailto:vassifer at earthlink.net>
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 > >  At the risk of possibly

 > >  re-igniting the surreally hostile thread I
 participated in

 > >  back in November (wherein certain member of
 our estimable

 > >  collective got a bit combative on the
 subject of the

 > >  election to the point where I actually left
 the fold for a

 > >  bit), I?m wondering how everyone?s feeling
 only six days

 > >  into the era of Trump as President.

 > >  

 > >  My feelings haven?t changed. I still believe
 it

 > >  was an incalculable mistake.

 > >  

 > >  But what about you?

 > >  

 > >  More relevant to this list ? where are
 Messrs.

 > >  Coleman, Walker, Glover and Ferguson? I know
 Youth has

 > >  weighed in periodically on FB about Trump
 (he,

 > >  unsurprisingly, does not appear to be a
 acolyte), but I?m

 > >  positively gagging to hear what Jaz and BPF
 have to say

 > >  about him.

 > >  

 > >  Anyway, let?s

 > >  hear your thoughts. I promise not to swan
 off like jilted

 > >  prom queen. I?m just wondering what this
 largely

 > >  Euro-centric (right?) group of folks have to
 say at this

 > >  point.

 > >  

 > >  The mood here in

 > >  NYC, suffice to say, is not positive.

 > >  

 > >  Cheers, you fuckers.

 > >  

 > >  Alex in NYC.

 > >  

 > >  

 > >  

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 > > You guys and you're alternative facts....Sad!

 > > 

 > > (?)

 > > 

 > > On 27 January 2017, at 21:01, Jim Harper via
 Gathering <gathering at misera.net <mailto:gathering at misera.net><mailto:gathering at misera.net
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 wrote:

 > > 

 > > You are correct Mike. The TIPP involves only the
 US and the EU. It's a separate beast entirely.

 > > 

 > > Jim.

 > > 

 > > On Fri, 27/1/17, Mike Cooper
 <mike at coopersurf.fsnet.co.uk <mailto:mike at coopersurf.fsnet.co.uk>
 <mailto:mike at coopersurf.fsnet.co.uk
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  wrote:

 > > 

 > >  Subject: Re: [kj] Gathering Digest, Vol 168,
 Issue 15

 > >  To: "'A list about all things
 Killing Joke (the band!)'" <gathering at misera.net
 <mailto:gathering at misera.net><mailto:gathering at misera.net
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 > >  Date: Friday, 27 January, 2017, 20:27

 > >  

 > >  

 > >  Aren?t TTIP and TPP completely

 > >  different things?? I thought the former was
 concerning the

 > >  deals for corporations and government which
 Trump The C?

 > >  would almost certainly support and the
 latter a trade deal

 > >  with pacific nations which he has ended. ?Oh
 and by the way Kev you?re

 > >  talking crap. ?From: Gathering

 > >  [mailto:gathering-bounces at misera.net
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  On Behalf Of

 > >  kevin

 > >  Sent: 27 January 2017

 > >  06:57

 > >  To: gathering at misera.net <mailto:gathering at misera.net>
 <mailto:gathering at misera.net <mailto:gathering at misera.net>>

 > >  Subject: Re: [kj] Gathering Digest, Vol

 > >  168, Issue 15 ?I`m happy Trump got in.
 Fucking

 > >  overjoyed actually.Seem to recall there was
 a post on

 > >  here around August from someone in the UK I
 think

 > >  declaring he didn`t have a prayer.

 > >  Mmmm.

 > >  ?I think Jaz

 > >  mentioned he was more relieved that Hillary
 didn`t get in

 > >  but he seems to change his views like the
 weather on these

 > >  things.He seemed to be really revelling

 > >  in teasing the UK audiences about `How is
 your Brexit

 > >  going?` etc but I also heard he was `50/50`
 on

 > >  that(strange for someone who seems to

 > >  jump on people for being `fence
 sitters.`)Jaz

 > >  ws very outspoken on TIPP so now Trump has
 killed TPP I`m

 > >  sure he is revelling in that presumably
 dying.. ?I don`t think BPF likes him but

 > >  can`t speak for others. He put up a John
 Pilger piece which

 > >  was very anti Trump during the
 election..Geordie no idea but a big

 > >  supporter of EU so I hear. ?Youth I assume
 is wearing a Pink

 > >  Pussy hat and waving a placard with a crying
 polar bear on

 > >  it or something... ?

 > >  ?

 > >  

 > >  Message: 3

 > >  Date: Thu, 26 Jan

 > >  2017 20:25:03 -0500

 > >  From: Alexander Smith

 > >  <vassifer at earthlink.net <mailto:vassifer at earthlink.net>
 <mailto:vassifer at earthlink.net
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 > >  To: "A list about all things Killing
 Joke

 > >  (the band!)"

 > >  ??????? <gathering at misera.net <mailto:gathering at misera.net>
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 > >  Subject: [kj] Killing Joke in the Age of

 > >  Trump

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 > >  

 > >  At the risk of possibly

 > >  re-igniting the surreally hostile thread I
 participated in

 > >  back in November (wherein certain member of
 our estimable

 > >  collective got a bit combative on the
 subject of the

 > >  election to the point where I actually left
 the fold for a

 > >  bit), I?m wondering how everyone?s feeling
 only six days

 > >  into the era of Trump as President.

 > >  

 > >  My feelings haven?t changed. I still believe
 it

 > >  was an incalculable mistake.

 > >  

 > >  But what about you?

 > >  

 > >  More relevant to this list ? where are
 Messrs.

 > >  Coleman, Walker, Glover and Ferguson? I know
 Youth has

 > >  weighed in periodically on FB about Trump
 (he,

 > >  unsurprisingly, does not appear to be a
 acolyte), but I?m

 > >  positively gagging to hear what Jaz and BPF
 have to say

 > >  about him.

 > >  

 > >  Anyway, let?s

 > >  hear your thoughts. I promise not to swan
 off like jilted

 > >  prom queen. I?m just wondering what this
 largely

 > >  Euro-centric (right?) group of folks have to
 say at this

 > >  point.

 > >  

 > >  The mood here in

 > >  NYC, suffice to say, is not positive.

 > >  

 > >  Cheers, you fuckers.

 > >  

 > >  Alex in NYC.

 > >  

 > >  

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