[kj] Gathering Digest, Vol 168, Issue 27
Nick Scott
npscott at blueyonder.co.uk
Sun Jan 29 11:20:09 EST 2017
He has been using them sporadically for a while.
[here
https://noisey.vice.com/en_us/article/killing-joke-jaz-coleman-interview-2015 ]
Noisey: Why don’t you use cell phones or computers?
Jaz Coleman: Well, I’m using a cell phone today, but generally I don’t touch
them. I don’t dig typewriters or computers or whatever you fucking call them. I
don’t think they’ve improved our lives. I think they’ve made our lives worse,
frankly. I don’t see any benefits at all. Some people actually stopped
communicating with me, but I don’t care. If they want to talk to me, they’re at
the very least going to have to agree to a time when we can speak on the phone.
> On 29 January 2017 at 15:56 Alexander Smith <vassifer at earthlink.net> wrote:
>
> Still doesn’t explain why a Trump win would “overjoy” you.
>
> Hold up, though — to your point, Jaz has a CELLPHONE?
>
> Alex in NYC
>
>
>
>
> > > On Jan 29, 2017, at 2:14 AM, kevin <patrickvieira at msn.com
> > > mailto:patrickvieira at msn.com > wrote:
> > Mike like I said BPF put up an anti Trump piece by John Pilger on
> > his FB.
> > There was an interview with Jaz in Finland I think it was ,
> > backstage in a grotty looking dressing room
> > where he was checking messages on his PHONE(!!!!!) and he stated he
> > was probably more relieved
> > that Hillary didn`t get in as opposed to Trump. Don`t shoot the
> > messenger-it was on one of those
> > KJ fan FB pages.
> > I havent got any connections to the far right that I know of- but I
> > do look at the Sport and Money pages
> > on the Daily Mail website quite often so I suppose that does
> > qualiify me in some peoples eyes
> >
> >
> >
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> > 1. Re: Gathering Digest, Vol 168, Issue 24 (Mike Cooper)
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> > Message: 1
> > Date: Sat, 28 Jan 2017 17:19:34 -0000
> > From: "Mike Cooper" <mike at coopersurf.fsnet.co.uk
> > mailto:mike at coopersurf.fsnet.co.uk >
> > To: "'A list about all things Killing Joke \(the band!\)'"
> > <gathering at misera.net mailto:gathering at misera.net >
> > Subject: Re: [kj] Gathering Digest, Vol 168, Issue 24
> > Message-ID: <003201d2798a$b2819450$1784bcf0$@coopersurf.fsnet.co.uk
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> > Kevin I would love to know what Breibart has been spot on with?
> > It's been
> > demonised because of its connections with the far right and the KKK?
> > I am
> > hoping you are not connected to either! There are lots of unbiased
> > articles
> > about TTIP you could look at or are you just used to going to
> > Breibart
> > liking what you read and then going with that?
> >
> >
> >
> > TTIP would be right up Trumps street given his own global brands a
> > good
> > example because his option to a windfarm 3 miles off the coast of
> > Scotland
> > because it might spoil the view from his golf course? Never mind
> > the clean
> > energy if will supply to the people who actually live in Scotland.
> > TTIP
> > would allow him to challenge and beat legislation of the Scottish
> > Parliament
> > despite the fact the the fat stupid c..t lives in America. The
> > bloke is
> > disgusting, stop reading Breibart coz it is clearly messing with
> > your head.
> >
> >
> >
> > I still want to know where Jaz, Big Paul etc. said what you posted
> > yesterday
> > coz it contradicted everything I have seen them say.
> >
> >
> >
> > From: Gathering [mailto:gathering-bounces at misera.net] On Behalf Of
> > kevin
> > Sent: 28 January 2017 15:16
> > To: gathering at misera.net mailto:gathering at misera.net
> > Subject: Re: [kj] Gathering Digest, Vol 168, Issue 24
> >
> >
> >
> > I just trawl alternative media Alex.
> >
> > Breitbart has been spot on with a lot of things.
> >
> > But of course it has been demonsed so i`m not supposed to look at
> > it.
> >
> >
> >
> > _____
> >
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> > Message: 1
> > Date: Sat, 28 Jan 2017 10:05:46 -0500
> > From: Alexander Smith <vassifer at earthlink.net
> > mailto:vassifer at earthlink.net >
> > To: "A list about all things Killing Joke (the band!)"
> > <gathering at misera.net mailto:gathering at misera.net >
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> > You?re using Breitbart as a credible source?
> >
> >
> > Alex in NYC
> >
> >
> >
> > > On Jan 28, 2017, at 10:01 AM, kevin <patrickvieira at msn.com
> > > mailto:patrickvieira at msn.com > wrote:
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
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> > http://www.breitbart.com/london/2017/01/27/trumps-prospective-eu-ambassador-
> > ttip-dead/
> >
> > <http://www.breitbart.com/london/2017/01/27/trumps-prospective-eu-ambassador
> > -ttip-dead/>
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > <http://www.breitbart.com/london/2017/01/27/trumps-prospective-eu-ambassador
> > -ttip-dead/>
> >
> >
> >
> > <http://www.breitbart.com/london/2017/01/27/trumps-prospective-eu-ambassador
> > -ttip-dead/> Trump's Prospective EU Ambassador: TTIP is Dead
> >
> > http://www.breitbart.com/
> >
> >
> > The economist and academic hotly tipped to be President Trump's
> > ambassador
> > to the European Union told the Breitbart News Daily Show that "TTIP
> > is a non
> > starter" and won't progress under the Trump administration.
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > <http://www.breitbart.com/london/2017/01/27/trumps-prospective-eu-ambassador
> > -ttip-dead/>
> >
> >
> >
> > <http://www.breitbart.com/london/2017/01/27/trumps-prospective-eu-ambassador
> > -ttip-dead/> Trump's Prospective EU Ambassador: TTIP is Dead
> >
> > http://www.breitbart.com/
> >
> >
> > The economist and academic hotly tipped to be President Trump's
> > ambassador
> > to the European Union told the Breitbart News Daily Show that "TTIP
> > is a non
> > starter" and won't progress under the Trump administration.
> >
> >
> > >
> >
> > <http://www.breitbart.com/london/2017/01/27/trumps-prospective-eu-ambassador
> > -ttip-dead/>
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > <http://www.breitbart.com/london/2017/01/27/trumps-prospective-eu-ambassador
> > -ttip-dead/>
> >
> >
> >
> > <http://www.breitbart.com/london/2017/01/27/trumps-prospective-eu-ambassador
> > -ttip-dead/> Trump's Prospective EU Ambassador: TTIP is Dead
> >
> > http://www.breitbart.com/
> >
> >
> > The economist and academic hotly tipped to be President Trump's
> > ambassador
> > to the European Union told the Breitbart News Daily Show that "TTIP
> > is a non
> > starter" and won't progress under the Trump administration.
> >
> >
> > > Trump's Prospective EU Ambassador: TTIP is Dead
> >
> > <http://www.breitbart.com/london/2017/01/27/trumps-prospective-eu-ambassador
> > -ttip-dead/>
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > <http://www.breitbart.com/london/2017/01/27/trumps-prospective-eu-ambassador
> > -ttip-dead/>
> >
> >
> >
> > <http://www.breitbart.com/london/2017/01/27/trumps-prospective-eu-ambassador
> > -ttip-dead/> Trump's Prospective EU Ambassador: TTIP is Dead
> >
> > http://www.breitbart.com/
> >
> >
> > The economist and academic hotly tipped to be President Trump's
> > ambassador
> > to the European Union told the Breitbart News Daily Show that "TTIP
> > is a non
> > starter" and won't progress under the Trump administration.
> >
> >
> > > http://www.breitbart.com/ <http://www.breitbart.com/ >
> > > <http://www.breitbart.com/>
> >
> >
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> >
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> > > The economist and academic hotly tipped to be President Trump's
> > > ambassador
> > to the European Union told the Breitbart News Daily Show that "TTIP
> > is a non
> > starter" and won't progress under the Trump administration.
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > > On Jan 28, 2017, at 9:02 AM, kevin <patrickvieira at msn.com
> > > > mailto:patrickvieira at msn.com
> > <mailto:patrickvieira at msn.com>> wrote:
> > > >
> > > > That`s why I made a differentation and said `presumably dying.`
> > > > So lets wait and see what happens with the TIPP.
> > > > As for talking crap. Well on the day that I walk past a TV and
> > > > SKY news
> > are
> > > > reporting on `what this spraying programme is` and `why the
> > > > public
> > shouldn`t be alarmed` I`ll get
> > > > back to you on that.
> > > >
> > > > Alex- me typing 3 days worth of wall taxt isn`t going to mak
> > > > any
> > difference to what you think.
> > > >
> > > >
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> > > > 1. Re: Gathering Digest, Vol 168, Issue 15 (Mike Cooper)
> > > > 2. Re: Gathering Digest, Vol 168, Issue 15 (Jim Harper)
> > > > 3. Re: Gathering Digest, Vol 168, Issue 15 (Richard Hopkins)
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> > > > Date: Fri, 27 Jan 2017 20:27:26 -0000
> > > > From: "Mike Cooper" <mike at coopersurf.fsnet.co.uk
> > > > mailto:mike at coopersurf.fsnet.co.uk
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> > > > Aren't TTIP and TPP completely different things? I thought the
> > > > former
> > was
> > > > concerning the deals for corporations and government which Trump
> > > > The C.
> > > > would almost certainly support and the latter a trade deal with
> > > > pacific
> > > > nations which he has ended.
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > Oh and by the way Kev you're talking crap.
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > From: Gathering [mailto:gathering-bounces at misera.net
> > <mailto:gathering-bounces at misera.net>
> > <mailto:gathering-bounces at misera.net
> > <mailto:gathering-bounces at misera.net>>] On Behalf Of kevin
> > > > Sent: 27 January 2017 06:57
> > > > To: gathering at misera.net mailto:gathering at misera.net
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> > > > Subject: Re: [kj] Gathering Digest, Vol 168, Issue 15
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> > > > I`m happy Trump got in. Fucking overjoyed actually.
> > > >
> > > > Seem to recall there was a post on here around August from
> > > > someone in
> > the UK
> > > > I think
> > > >
> > > > declaring he didn`t have a prayer. Mmmm.
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > I think Jaz mentioned he was more relieved that Hillary didn`t
> > > > get in
> > but he
> > > > seems to change his views like the weather on these things.
> > > >
> > > > He seemed to be really revelling in teasing the UK audiences
> > > > about `How
> > is
> > > > your Brexit going?` etc but I also heard he was `50/50` on that
> > > >
> > > > (strange for someone who seems to jump on people for being
> > > > `fence
> > sitters.`)
> > > >
> > > > Jaz ws very outspoken on TIPP so now Trump has killed TPP I`m
> > > > sure he is
> > > > revelling in that presumably dying..
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > I don`t think BPF likes him but can`t speak for others. He put
> > > > up a John
> > > > Pilger piece which was very anti Trump during the election..
> > > >
> > > > Geordie no idea but a big supporter of EU so I hear.
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > Youth I assume is wearing a Pink Pussy hat and waving a placard
> > > > with a
> > > > crying polar bear on it or something...
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > Message: 3
> > > > Date: Thu, 26 Jan 2017 20:25:03 -0500
> > > > From: Alexander Smith <vassifer at earthlink.net
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> > <mailto:vassifer at earthlink.net> <mailto:vassifer at earthlink.net
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> > > > At the risk of possibly re-igniting the surreally hostile thread
> > > > I
> > > > participated in back in November (wherein certain member of our
> > estimable
> > > > collective got a bit combative on the subject of the election to
> > > > the
> > point
> > > > where I actually left the fold for a bit), I?m wondering how
> > > > everyone?s
> > > > feeling only six days into the era of Trump as President.
> > > >
> > > > My feelings haven?t changed. I still believe it was an
> > > > incalculable
> > mistake.
> > > >
> > > > But what about you?
> > > >
> > > > More relevant to this list ? where are Messrs. Coleman, Walker,
> > > > Glover
> > and
> > > > Ferguson? I know Youth has weighed in periodically on FB about
> > > > Trump
> > (he,
> > > > unsurprisingly, does not appear to be a acolyte), but I?m
> > > > positively
> > gagging
> > > > to hear what Jaz and BPF have to say about him.
> > > >
> > > > Anyway, let?s hear your thoughts. I promise not to swan off like
> > > > jilted
> > prom
> > > > queen. I?m just wondering what this largely Euro-centric
> > > > (right?) group
> > of
> > > > folks have to say at this point.
> > > >
> > > > The mood here in NYC, suffice to say, is not positive.
> > > >
> > > > Cheers, you fuckers.
> > > >
> > > > Alex in NYC.
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > ------------------------------
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> > > > Message: 2
> > > > Date: Fri, 27 Jan 2017 21:01:25 +0000 (UTC)
> > > > From: Jim Harper <jimharper666 at yahoo.co.uk
> > > > mailto:jimharper666 at yahoo.co.uk
> > <mailto:jimharper666 at yahoo.co.uk> <mailto:jimharper666 at yahoo.co.uk
> > <mailto:jimharper666 at yahoo.co.uk>>>
> > > > To: "A list about all things Killing Joke \(the band!\)"
> > > > <gathering at misera.net mailto:gathering at misera.net
> > > > <mailto:gathering at misera.net>
> > <mailto:gathering at misera.net <mailto:gathering at misera.net>>>
> > > > Subject: Re: [kj] Gathering Digest, Vol 168, Issue 15
> > > > Message-ID: <247964454.4391662.1485550885390 at mail.yahoo.com
> > > > mailto:247964454.4391662.1485550885390 at mail.yahoo.com
> >
> > <mailto:247964454.4391662.1485550885390 at mail.yahoo.com><mailto:247964454.439
> > 1662.1485550885390 at mail.yahoo.com
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> > <mailto:247964454.4391662.1485550885390 at mail.yahoo.com>>>
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> > > >
> > > > You are correct Mike. The TIPP involves only the US and the EU.
> > > > It's a
> > separate beast entirely.
> > > >
> > > > Jim.
> > > >
> > > > On Fri, 27/1/17, Mike Cooper <mike at coopersurf.fsnet.co.uk
> > > > mailto:mike at coopersurf.fsnet.co.uk
> > <mailto:mike at coopersurf.fsnet.co.uk>
> > <mailto:mike at coopersurf.fsnet.co.uk
> > <mailto:mike at coopersurf.fsnet.co.uk>>> wrote:
> > > >
> > > > Subject: Re: [kj] Gathering Digest, Vol 168, Issue 15
> > > > To: "'A list about all things Killing Joke (the band!)'"
> > <gathering at misera.net mailto:gathering at misera.net
> > <mailto:gathering at misera.net><mailto:gathering at misera.net
> > <mailto:gathering at misera.net>>>
> > > > Date: Friday, 27 January, 2017, 20:27
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > Aren?t TTIP and TPP completely
> > > > different things?? I thought the former was concerning the
> > > > deals for corporations and government which Trump The C?
> > > > would almost certainly support and the latter a trade deal
> > > > with pacific nations which he has ended. ?Oh and by the way Kev
> > > > you?re
> > > > talking crap. ?From: Gathering
> > > > [mailto:gathering-bounces at misera.net
> > <mailto:gathering-bounces at misera.net>
> > <mailto:gathering-bounces at misera.net
> > <mailto:gathering-bounces at misera.net>>] On Behalf Of
> > > > kevin
> > > > Sent: 27 January 2017
> > > > 06:57
> > > > To: gathering at misera.net mailto:gathering at misera.net
> > > > <mailto:gathering at misera.net>
> > <mailto:gathering at misera.net <mailto:gathering at misera.net>>
> > > > Subject: Re: [kj] Gathering Digest, Vol
> > > > 168, Issue 15 ?I`m happy Trump got in. Fucking
> > > > overjoyed actually.Seem to recall there was a post on
> > > > here around August from someone in the UK I think
> > > > declaring he didn`t have a prayer.
> > > > Mmmm.
> > > > ?I think Jaz
> > > > mentioned he was more relieved that Hillary didn`t get in
> > > > but he seems to change his views like the weather on these
> > > > things.He seemed to be really revelling
> > > > in teasing the UK audiences about `How is your Brexit
> > > > going?` etc but I also heard he was `50/50` on
> > > > that(strange for someone who seems to
> > > > jump on people for being `fence sitters.`)Jaz
> > > > ws very outspoken on TIPP so now Trump has killed TPP I`m
> > > > sure he is revelling in that presumably dying.. ?I don`t think
> > > > BPF
> > likes him but
> > > > can`t speak for others. He put up a John Pilger piece which
> > > > was very anti Trump during the election..Geordie no idea but a
> > > > big
> > > > supporter of EU so I hear. ?Youth I assume is wearing a Pink
> > > > Pussy hat and waving a placard with a crying polar bear on
> > > > it or something... ?
> > > > ?
> > > >
> > > > Message: 3
> > > > Date: Thu, 26 Jan
> > > > 2017 20:25:03 -0500
> > > > From: Alexander Smith
> > > > <vassifer at earthlink.net mailto:vassifer at earthlink.net
> > > > <mailto:vassifer at earthlink.net>
> > <mailto:vassifer at earthlink.net <mailto:vassifer at earthlink.net>>>
> > > > To: "A list about all things Killing Joke
> > > > (the band!)"
> > > > ??????? <gathering at misera.net mailto:gathering at misera.net
> > > > <mailto:gathering at misera.net>
> > <mailto:gathering at misera.net <mailto:gathering at misera.net>>>
> > > > Subject: [kj] Killing Joke in the Age of
> > > > Trump
> > > > Message-ID: <0D9FA8B6-0872-44C6-92A5-3C76DE29BA8C at earthlink.net
> > > > mailto:0D9FA8B6-0872-44C6-92A5-3C76DE29BA8C at earthlink.net
> > <mailto:0D9FA8B6-0872-44C6-92A5-3C76DE29BA8C at earthlink.net>
> > <mailto:0D9FA8B6-0872-44C6-92A5-3C76DE29BA8C at earthlink.net
> > <mailto:0D9FA8B6-0872-44C6-92A5-3C76DE29BA8C at earthlink.net>>>
> > > > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8
> > > >
> > > > At the risk of possibly
> > > > re-igniting the surreally hostile thread I participated in
> > > > back in November (wherein certain member of our estimable
> > > > collective got a bit combative on the subject of the
> > > > election to the point where I actually left the fold for a
> > > > bit), I?m wondering how everyone?s feeling only six days
> > > > into the era of Trump as President.
> > > >
> > > > My feelings haven?t changed. I still believe it
> > > > was an incalculable mistake.
> > > >
> > > > But what about you?
> > > >
> > > > More relevant to this list ? where are Messrs.
> > > > Coleman, Walker, Glover and Ferguson? I know Youth has
> > > > weighed in periodically on FB about Trump (he,
> > > > unsurprisingly, does not appear to be a acolyte), but I?m
> > > > positively gagging to hear what Jaz and BPF have to say
> > > > about him.
> > > >
> > > > Anyway, let?s
> > > > hear your thoughts. I promise not to swan off like jilted
> > > > prom queen. I?m just wondering what this largely
> > > > Euro-centric (right?) group of folks have to say at this
> > > > point.
> > > >
> > > > The mood here in
> > > > NYC, suffice to say, is not positive.
> > > >
> > > > Cheers, you fuckers.
> > > >
> > > > Alex in NYC.
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > ------------------------------
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> > > > Subject: Digest Footer
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> > <https://pairlist4.pair.net/mailman/listinfo/gathering
> > <https://pairlist4.pair.net/mailman/listinfo/gathering>>
> > > > Gathering Info Page -
> > > > pairlist4.pair.netpairlist4.pair.netGathering -- A list about
> > > > all
> > > > things Killing Joke (the band!) About Gathering: The
> > > > Gathering is a mailing list about the band Killing
> > > > Joke.
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > ------------------------------
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> > > > ------------------------------
> > > >
> > > > Message: 3
> > > > Date: Fri, 27 Jan 2017 21:43:47 +0000
> > > > From: Richard Hopkins <ratclimber at gmail.com
> > > > mailto:ratclimber at gmail.com
> > <mailto:ratclimber at gmail.com> <mailto:ratclimber at gmail.com
> > <mailto:ratclimber at gmail.com>>>
> > > > To: Jim Harper <jimharper666 at yahoo.co.uk
> > > > mailto:jimharper666 at yahoo.co.uk
> > <mailto:jimharper666 at yahoo.co.uk> <mailto:jimharper666 at yahoo.co.uk
> > <mailto:jimharper666 at yahoo.co.uk>>>, "A list about all things
> > > > Killing Joke (the band!)" <gathering at misera.net
> > > > mailto:gathering at misera.net
> > <mailto:gathering at misera.net> <mailto:gathering at misera.net
> > <mailto:gathering at misera.net>>>
> > > > Subject: Re: [kj] Gathering Digest, Vol 168, Issue 15
> > > > Message-ID:
> > > > <9ptjn0cd048lqshj0ob9b4pu.1485553427706 at email.android.com
> > > > mailto:9ptjn0cd048lqshj0ob9b4pu.1485553427706 at email.android.com
> >
> > <mailto:9ptjn0cd048lqshj0ob9b4pu.1485553427706 at email.android.com><mailto:9pt
> > jn0cd048lqshj0ob9b4pu.1485553427706 at email.android.com
> > mailto:jn0cd048lqshj0ob9b4pu.1485553427706 at email.android.com
> > <mailto:9ptjn0cd048lqshj0ob9b4pu.1485553427706 at email.android.com>>>
> > > > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8
> > > >
> > > > You guys and you're alternative facts....Sad!
> > > >
> > > > (?)
> > > >
> > > > On 27 January 2017, at 21:01, Jim Harper via Gathering
> > <gathering at misera.net mailto:gathering at misera.net
> > <mailto:gathering at misera.net><mailto:gathering at misera.net
> > <mailto:gathering at misera.net>>> wrote:
> > > >
> > > > You are correct Mike. The TIPP involves only the US and the EU.
> > > > It's a
> > separate beast entirely.
> > > >
> > > > Jim.
> > > >
> > > > On Fri, 27/1/17, Mike Cooper <mike at coopersurf.fsnet.co.uk
> > > > mailto:mike at coopersurf.fsnet.co.uk
> > <mailto:mike at coopersurf.fsnet.co.uk>
> > <mailto:mike at coopersurf.fsnet.co.uk
> > <mailto:mike at coopersurf.fsnet.co.uk>>> wrote:
> > > >
> > > > Subject: Re: [kj] Gathering Digest, Vol 168, Issue 15
> > > > To: "'A list about all things Killing Joke (the band!)'"
> > <gathering at misera.net mailto:gathering at misera.net
> > <mailto:gathering at misera.net><mailto:gathering at misera.net
> > <mailto:gathering at misera.net>>>
> > > > Date: Friday, 27 January, 2017, 20:27
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > Aren?t TTIP and TPP completely
> > > > different things?? I thought the former was concerning the
> > > > deals for corporations and government which Trump The C?
> > > > would almost certainly support and the latter a trade deal
> > > > with pacific nations which he has ended. ?Oh and by the way Kev
> > > > you?re
> > > > talking crap. ?From: Gathering
> > > > [mailto:gathering-bounces at misera.net
> > <mailto:gathering-bounces at misera.net>
> > <mailto:gathering-bounces at misera.net
> > <mailto:gathering-bounces at misera.net>>] On Behalf Of
> > > > kevin
> > > > Sent: 27 January 2017
> > > > 06:57
> > > > To: gathering at misera.net mailto:gathering at misera.net
> > > > <mailto:gathering at misera.net>
> > <mailto:gathering at misera.net <mailto:gathering at misera.net>>
> > > > Subject: Re: [kj] Gathering Digest, Vol
> > > > 168, Issue 15 ?I`m happy Trump got in. Fucking
> > > > overjoyed actually.Seem to recall there was a post on
> > > > here around August from someone in the UK I think
> > > > declaring he didn`t have a prayer.
> > > > Mmmm.
> > > > ?I think Jaz
> > > > mentioned he was more relieved that Hillary didn`t get in
> > > > but he seems to change his views like the weather on these
> > > > things.He seemed to be really revelling
> > > > in teasing the UK audiences about `How is your Brexit
> > > > going?` etc but I also heard he was `50/50` on
> > > > that(strange for someone who seems to
> > > > jump on people for being `fence sitters.`)Jaz
> > > > ws very outspoken on TIPP so now Trump has killed TPP I`m
> > > > sure he is revelling in that presumably dying.. ?I don`t think
> > > > BPF
> > likes him but
> > > > can`t speak for others. He put up a John Pilger piece which
> > > > was very anti Trump during the election..Geordie no idea but a
> > > > big
> > > > supporter of EU so I hear. ?Youth I assume is wearing a Pink
> > > > Pussy hat and waving a placard with a crying polar bear on
> > > > it or something... ?
> > > > ?
> > > >
> > > > Message: 3
> > > > Date: Thu, 26 Jan
> > > > 2017 20:25:03 -0500
> > > > From: Alexander Smith
> > > > <vassifer at earthlink.net mailto:vassifer at earthlink.net
> > > > <mailto:vassifer at earthlink.net>
> > <mailto:vassifer at earthlink.net <mailto:vassifer at earthlink.net>>>
> > > > To: "A list about all things Killing Joke
> > > > (the band!)"
> > > > ??????? <gathering at misera.net mailto:gathering at misera.net
> > > > <mailto:gathering at misera.net>
> > <mailto:gathering at misera.net <mailto:gathering at misera.net>>>
> > > > Subject: [kj] Killing Joke in the Age of
> > > > Trump
> > > > Message-ID: <0D9FA8B6-0872-44C6-92A5-3C76DE29BA8C at earthlink.net
> > > > mailto:0D9FA8B6-0872-44C6-92A5-3C76DE29BA8C at earthlink.net
> > <mailto:0D9FA8B6-0872-44C6-92A5-3C76DE29BA8C at earthlink.net>
> > <mailto:0D9FA8B6-0872-44C6-92A5-3C76DE29BA8C at earthlink.net
> > <mailto:0D9FA8B6-0872-44C6-92A5-3C76DE29BA8C at earthlink.net>>>
> > > > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8
> > > >
> > > > At the risk of possibly
> > > > re-igniting the surreally hostile thread I participated in
> > > > back in November (wherein certain member of our estimable
> > > > collective got a bit combative on the subject of the
> > > > election to the point where I actually left the fold for a
> > > > bit), I?m wondering how everyone?s feeling only six days
> > > > into the era of Trump as President.
> > > >
> > > > My feelings haven?t changed. I still believe it
> > > > was an incalculable mistake.
> > > >
> > > > But what about you?
> > > >
> > > > More relevant to this list ? where are Messrs.
> > > > Coleman, Walker, Glover and Ferguson? I know Youth has
> > > > weighed in periodically on FB about Trump (he,
> > > > unsurprisingly, does not appear to be a acolyte), but I?m
> > > > positively gagging to hear what Jaz and BPF have to say
> > > > about him.
> > > >
> > > > Anyway, let?s
> > > > hear your thoughts. I promise not to swan off like jilted
> > > > prom queen. I?m just wondering what this largely
> > > > Euro-centric (right?) group of folks have to say at this
> > > > point.
> > > >
> > > > The mood here in
> > > > NYC, suffice to say, is not positive.
> > > >
> > > > Cheers, you fuckers.
> > > >
> > > > Alex in NYC.
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
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> > > > Joke.
> > > >
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