[kj] Ha

[jpwhkj at aol.com]

Agreed.  I loved that radio session.  Blue Feather and New Culture were great tracks, and All Play Rebel wasn't bad (and obviously Eighties, but that was already out).  I thought that an album was imminent, and in truth they had nearly enough post-Fire Dances material:


Me Or You
Eighties
Blue Feather
New Culture
All Play Rebel
New Day (not released when the session was recorded, but came out shortly after)
Wilful Days (very much a Fire Dances track admittedly)


Given that Night Time was only 8 tracks, that's nearly there...



I'd also have loved to have seen the Jensen session tracks live.  Just listening to the opening guitar of New Culture and the slamming drums... would have been amazing.


Jamie, remembering 1984



-----Original Message-----
From: Carlos Fandango <stronkle at hotmail.co.uk>
To: gathering <gathering at misera.net>
Sent: Thu, 26 Oct 2017 20:49
Subject: Re: [kj] Ha




I would have loved them to have done an official studio version of "new culture".

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From:Nick Scott via Gathering
Sent:‎10/‎26/‎2017 3:03 PM
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Cc:Nick Scott
Subject:Re: [kj] Ha



Apart from the shameful recycling guitar riff of the B Side "Ecstasy" in
"Obsession", the god awful "Hollywood Babylon", Drug", "Me Or You" and the awful
Youth radio mix of "Jana", they have gotten most other stuff right.

> On 26 October 2017 at 19:50 Paul Rangecroft <paul.rangecroft at gmail.com> wrote:
> 
> 
> Agreed re quality control. I love hearing these rarities - and 'The
> Fanatic' and 'Blue Feather' are probably the strongest of the rejected
> batch - but I think over the years they've pretty much got it right
> with regard to what made the cut and what didn't,
> 
> On 10/26/17, Rob Moss <rob.moss at gmx.com> wrote:
> > Never got the Fanatic. I think it’s one they were right to keep back. Like
> > Feast Of Fools I find. A bit generic.
> >
> > I think their quality control
> > Is pretty damn good on the whole.
> >
> >> On 26 Oct 2017, at 11:21, jpwhkj--- via Gathering <gathering at misera.net>
> >> wrote:
> >>
> >> In fact it's even pretty rare for them to play something and it not appear
> >> on an official studio release (other than retrospectives etc).  Only ones
> >> I've personally seen are the Fanatic (which I saw at those two UK gigs in
> >> spring 89) and Timewave (London).  Always liked the Fanatic & couldn't
> >> understand why it didn't make the album - I think it's better than some of
> >> the tracks that did.
> >>
> >>
> >> -----Original Message-----
> >> From: Paul Rangecroft <paul.rangecroft at gmail.com>
> >> To: A list about all things Killing Joke (the band!)
> >> <gathering at misera.net>
> >> Sent: Wed, 25 Oct 2017 23:12
> >> Subject: Re: [kj] Ha
> >>
> >> No, I don't think so. Sorry if I caused confusion by appearing to
> >> suggest that. I was trying to illustrate how relatively rare it is for
> >> songs to be dropped (either entirely or from albums) at the live stage
> >> without any sort of studio version or demo. So far the only example
> >> anyone has been able to come up with (other than 'Take Take Take'
> >> obviously) is 'The Hive', which was a precursor. I guess there are
> >> also those very early crap ones like 'You're Being Followed'. I think
> >> there was an early live version of 'Solitude' that bore absolutely no
> >> relation to the album version too.
> >>
> >> On 10/25/17, T.B. <planetary at socal.rr.com> wrote:
> >> > 4 Stations Of The Sun has been performed live?
> >> >
> >> > -----Original Message-----
> >> > From: Gathering [mailto:gathering-bounces at misera.net] On Behalf Of Paul
> >> > Rangecroft
> >> >
> >> > Yes, 'The Hive' never saw any kind of official release but it was a
> >> > precursor (to 'Harlequin'?). 'The Fanatic' has a studio version. So
> >> > does
> >> > 'Sun Goes Down'. '4 Stations of the Sun' does too. Well, a demo, anyway.
> >> > I
> >> > guess it's just a convenient coincidence that Ha! was released with an
> >> > exclusive track, fancy that.
> >> >
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