[kj] Ha

Mon Oct 30 14:39:30 EDT 2017

Blimey, Raven was there?  I wonder what he made of Taif...

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From: fatpotanga . <fatpotanga at gmail.com>
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I was there - fantastic gig. I was stood watching the support right at the back near the bar, looked to my left and there was raven watching intently. Never occurred to me to speak to him.
I think it was that one my that mum's car got stolen from. Id borrowed it  and parked on a really dodgy side street!

I may be remembering it wrong but I think they played there a couple of times in fairly close succession.
Shame the Internationals have gone, they were great venues.

On Sun, 29 Oct 2017 at 17:19, jpwhkj--- via Gathering <gathering at misera.net> wrote:

Can't remember the address, but Manchester International II, if memory serves.  Followed by the Kilburn Ballroom in London a couple of nights later.

And yeah, it was feckin amazing.

Nostalgic Jamie

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From: Brian Whitehead <bawhitehead at gmail.com>
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Sent: Sun, 29 Oct 2017 15:13
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Jamie,
Was the Manchester gig the one at the International on Plymouth Grove. Best KJ gig I've seen.
Brian.

On 27 October 2017 at 09:58, jpwhkj--- via Gathering <gathering at misera.net> wrote:

Not sure where it would go, but I'd find it a home ;-)  I know you love Extremities, but there are a few tracks that don't really do it for me.

The two gigs in question were pretty mental anyway (the Manc one in particular featured an ongoing battle between two local gangs).  Basically, we'd all suffered our way through 1988 and Outside the Gate, and the Joke apparently imploding... and suddenly here they were, with a load of new tracks that stood up alongside the old material.  I for one was massively relieved!

The Manc gig was also the scene of one of my favourite KJ moments.  Most of you have heard it before (probably several times) but I'll mention it briefly.

I hitchhiked up to Manchester, and was lucky with my lifts so got there mid-afternoon.  I found the venue, and the doors were all open so I wondered in and found the Joke doing their soundcheck.  They played something as a band (Frenzy, perhaps?) and then Jaz came and stood at the back and listened while Geordie played Night Time on his own.  Jaz was obviously entranced, and so was I.  There were bits that I'd previously assumed were keyboards that were actually guitar.  Hearing Geordie on his own was incredible.

Jamie

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From: adrianwason <adrianwason at btinternet.com>
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I love the Fanatic!
Where would you place it on Extremities though?
Never saw it live, I imagine it was mental!

----Original message----
>From : rob.moss at gmx.com
Date : 26/10/2017 - 11:29 (GMTDT)
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Cc : jpwhkj at aol.com
Subject : Re: [kj] Ha

Never got the Fanatic. I think it’s one they were right to keep back. Like Feast Of Fools I find. A bit generic. 

I think their quality control
Is pretty damn good on the whole. 

On 26 Oct 2017, at 11:21, jpwhkj--- via Gathering <gathering at misera.net> wrote:

In fact it's even pretty rare for them to play something and it not appear on an official studio release (other than retrospectives etc).  Only ones I've personally seen are the Fanatic (which I saw at those two UK gigs in spring 89) and Timewave (London).  Always liked the Fanatic & couldn't understand why it didn't make the album - I think it's better than some of the tracks that did.

-----Original Message-----
From: Paul Rangecroft <paul.rangecroft at gmail.com>
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Sent: Wed, 25 Oct 2017 23:12
Subject: Re: [kj] Ha

No, I don't think so. Sorry if I caused confusion by appearing to
suggest that. I was trying to illustrate how relatively rare it is for
songs to be dropped (either entirely or from albums) at the live stage
without any sort of studio version or demo. So far the only example
anyone has been able to come up with (other than 'Take Take Take'
obviously) is 'The Hive', which was a precursor. I guess there are
also those very early crap ones like 'You're Being Followed'. I think
there was an early live version of 'Solitude' that bore absolutely no
relation to the album version too.

On 10/25/17, T.B. <planetary at socal.rr.com> wrote:
> 4 Stations Of The Sun has been performed live?
>
> -----Original Message-----
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> Rangecroft
>
> Yes, 'The Hive' never saw any kind of official release but it was a
> precursor (to 'Harlequin'?). 'The Fanatic' has a studio version. So does
> 'Sun Goes Down'. '4 Stations of the Sun' does too. Well, a demo, anyway. I
> guess it's just a convenient coincidence that Ha! was released with an
> exclusive track, fancy that.
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