[kj] Ha
bongo
humanhybrid666 at gmail.com
Mon Oct 30 19:36:37 EDT 2017
I've got nothing to add to this thread, but I must say it is thoroughly
enjoyable to read.
often look for the 'like' button to show appreciation, but it's not there
;)
~jb.
On 31/10/2017 9:27 AM, "Carlos Fandango" <stronkle at hotmail.co.uk> wrote:
> In a sort of the reverse, I remember seeing taif at the Cardiff gig in
> 2003, the one where the venue was changed at the last minute & raven was on
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> From: Jim Harper via Gathering <gathering at misera.net>
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> I dimly remember Raven was supposed to have approached Jaz and Geordie and
> said that he wants back in the band because he can do it better so it's not
> unfeasible that he went to see that lineup first. Would he have asked to
> rejoin if he honestly thought Taif was doing an excellent job? I didn't
> know him very well but he never seemed to have that kind of ego.
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> On Mon, 30/10/17, fatpotanga . <fatpotanga at gmail.com> wrote:
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> Ah, was that the
> Taif one. I definitely remember one there with Raven. Pre
> and post Extremities?I'm getting old and
> confused. Taif one was a great gig. I was at the
> front opposite him. Had no idea who he was, just remember a
> manic grin.At least I think I
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> Blimey, Raven was
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> and there was raven watching intently. Never occurred to me
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> stolen from. Id borrowed it and parked on a really dodgy
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> Shame the Internationals have gone, they were great
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> Can't remember the address, but Manchester
> International II, if memory serves. Followed by the
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> Not sure where it would go, but I'd find it a
> home ;-) I know you love Extremities, but there are a few
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> two local gangs). Basically, we'd all suffered our way
> through 1988 and Outside the Gate, and the Joke apparently
> imploding... and suddenly here they were, with a load of new
> tracks that stood up alongside the old material. I for one
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> doing their soundcheck. They played something as a band
> (Frenzy, perhaps?) and then Jaz came and stood at the back
> and listened while Geordie played Night Time on his own.
> Jaz was obviously entranced, and so was I. There were bits
> that I'd previously assumed were keyboards that were
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> retrospectives etc). Only ones I've personally seen
> are the Fanatic (which I saw at those two UK gigs in spring
> 89) and Timewave (London). Always liked the Fanatic &
> couldn't understand why it didn't make the album - I
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