[kj] Roundhouse
Brad Sims
elduce at hotmail.co.uk
Sun Nov 18 12:54:12 EST 2018
i didnt bother with the roundhouse gig, never cared for the muddy sound there....went to oxford the previous night and it was excellent. tight as fuck , all on form and in a small place. of course the set list could have been better ( or at least a bit less predictable)
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From: Gathering <gathering-bounces at misera.net> on behalf of jpwhkj--- via Gathering <gathering at misera.net>
Sent: 18 November 2018 16:39
To: gathering at misera.net
Cc: jpwhkj at aol.com
Subject: Re: [kj] Roundhouse
Yes... let's see. Basically stuff I haven't seen live (or at least, not recently), but really like:
Nuclear Boy (I can dream)
Land of Milk & Honey
Take Take Take
Birds of a Feather
Feast of Blaze
Wilful Days
Me Or You
New Day
All Play Rebel
New Culture
Blue Feather
Slipstream
The Fanatic (ok, I heard it in 89, but...)
Aeon
Our Last Goodbye
Kaliyuga
Big Buzz
Snakedance
Quite a long set, so the encore is just Wardance. Jaz comes on stage and says "We are going to do a-"
- but by then I'm out at the merch stall buying the CD.
I'd settle for Neil's list though. Anything other than the usual stuff.
-----Original Message-----
From: Neil Perry <65snoopy at gmail.com>
To: A list about all things Killing Joke (the band!) <gathering at misera.net>
Sent: Sun, 18 Nov 2018 16:13
Subject: Re: [kj] Roundhouse
Heh well yes I agree, I realise I'm the kid let loose in the sweet shop complaining about
feeling sick - but variety is the spice of life and all that. I'm just trying to put a
dampener on all the relentless positivity around here ;-)
I will of course continue to go to KJ gigs until the end of time given the chance, but after Glasgow
I was wondering if that's the last time I ever see them. If so, 38 years is a good run!
And because we haven't done this for at least 3 months, here's what I would have liked them to play.
(Or failing that another Duende style album)
Take Take Take
We Have Joy
Chessboards
Kali Yuga
Wilful Days
Song & Dance
Darkness Before Dawn
North of the Border
Dominator
Invocation
Chop Chop
Nervous System
Europe
And then LLB, Change and Pssyche.
Not too much to ask is it?
On Sun, 18 Nov 2018 at 14:50, Paul Rangecroft <paul.rangecroft at gmail.com<mailto:paul.rangecroft at gmail.com>> wrote:
Never really got Asteroid. Maybe it's an audience participation thing.
I've radically adjusted my expectations re setlists given the last 20
years, so in that context I thought it was pretty good, but deep down
I know what could have been. They seemed to struggle for an opener
this tour but finally got it right with Unspeakable. Even on this list
there's quiet a diversity of opinion so in a way they're on a hiding
to nothing... they just shouldn't have written so many good songs!
On 11/18/18, Neil Perry <65snoopy at gmail.com<mailto:65snoopy at gmail.com>> wrote:
> :-) yeah I might have gone a bit far there. Just frustrated!
>
> But it is a weird thing with the old songs and the classics - I think of
> Pssyche as
> KJ's 'Ace Of Spades', and would be disappointed if they didn't play it, but
> I wouldn't
> care if they dropped nearly every other oldie if it meant playing something
> else we haven't
> heard at all/for a while.
> If I never hear 80s/Asteroid again it'll be too soon, plus a few others,
> and especially for
> this 40th anniversary it's a huge shame they couldn't be arsed to get out
> of the old live rut
> and rehearse some others from the extensive back catalogue that we never
> hear.
>
> On Sun, 18 Nov 2018 at 13:48, Paul Rangecroft <paul.rangecroft at gmail.com<mailto:paul.rangecroft at gmail.com>>
> wrote:
>
>> LOL maybe you're right. "The fucking Wait" though... ooof! I was with
>> you up until then.
>>
>> On 11/18/18, Neil Perry <65snoopy at gmail.com<mailto:65snoopy at gmail.com>> wrote:
>> > A friend who went to the gig last night who knows their stuff well
>> > enough
>> > but is not
>> > what you would call a KJ disciple told me that - and I quote his all
>> > caps
>> > rant - the sound
>> > was 'FUCKING ABYSMAL'.
>> >
>> > I sometimes wonder if all the adoration turns us deaf and blind? The
>> > last
>> > time I saw KJ at
>> > the Roundhouse I too thought the sound was generally shite, but then
>> talked
>> > to people after
>> > who said it was the gig of the century etc etc. Anyway the sound in
>> Glasgow
>> > was pretty damn good
>> > in KJ terms, which was a relief. I too was surprised by Loose Cannon, a
>> > song I have not listened to
>> > since it came out, but live it became something else entirely.
>> >
>> > Other highlights - I'm with you Jamie! Butcher, FTL, ESS, TD&RS. And
>> > them
>> > managing to complete a
>> > massive tour and remain alive.
>> >
>> > (Lowlights - fucking 80s, fucking Asteroid, The fucking Wait)
>> >
>> > On Sun, 18 Nov 2018 at 10:03, jpwhkj--- via Gathering
>> > <gathering at misera.net<mailto:gathering at misera.net>>
>> > wrote:
>> >
>> >> That was monstrous.
>> >>
>> >> Reading everyone's comments throughout the tour, I had high
>> expectations.
>> >> They were met.
>> >>
>> >> Unspeakable is a great track anyway - but what a fantastic opener.
>> >> The
>> >> eerie keyboards, the hard-edged guitar, the lyrics steeped in the
>> mystery
>> >> of the early Joke - but underpinning it all, the driving dance-funk of
>> >> Big
>> >> Paul and Youth. As they launched into it, I was watching Youth, and
>> >> the
>> >> rhythm seemed to flow into him, through him, out of him...
>> >>
>> >> Following that with European Super State was a great choice - another
>> >> dance number, but from the other end of the Joke catalogue.
>> >>
>> >> Other highlights were FTL (another hard-edged dance number), the
>> >> brutal
>> >> and bleak Butcher (possibly the song that for me encapsulates Killing
>> >> Joke), and Loose Cannon. I don't think I've seen them play LC before,
>> >> and
>> >> it really worked - a terrace chant like so many Joke tracks from years
>> >> gone
>> >> by. And Pssyche of course.
>> >>
>> >> In the encore, SO36 was full of its customary menace, and Pandemonium
>> was
>> >> a rousing, stomping finale. Lovely to watch Big Paul and Jaz sharing
>> >> a
>> >> hug
>> >> at the end, with Youth like a pixie taking photos.
>> >>
>> >> Afterwards, who I should bump into but - in order of appearance -
>> Andreas
>> >> Misera (long time!), followed by Antoni, Brian, and Mik. Great to see
>> >> y'all.
>> >>
>> >> Till next time.
>> >>
>> >> Jamie
>> >>
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