[kj] Trump

[Joe Cosenza]

You see what you want to see, hear what you want to hear and read what you want to read. Keep washing down all that soy with the fluoridated kool-aid. I look forward to reading your comments in January 2025.

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From: Gathering <gathering-bounces at misera.net> on behalf of Alexander Smith <vassifer at earthlink.net>
Sent: Saturday, February 23, 2019 4:43 PM
To: A list about all things Killing Joke (the band!)
Cc: jpwhkj at aol.com
Subject: Re: [kj] Trump

Doesn’t matter. They will be laughably mistaken. I’ve been proven correct on this front on almost a daily basis.

Alex in NYC

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On Feb 23, 2019, at 5:59 AM, jpwhkj--- via Gathering <gathering at misera.net<mailto:gathering at misera.net>> wrote:

The Gathering is a much duller place now that we don't have screaming rows about stuff.

So, can anyone here tell Alex why he was (and is) fundamentally wrong about Trump?  Just a few examples would do.




-----Original Message-----
From: The Stranger via Gathering <gathering at misera.net<mailto:gathering at misera.net>>
To: Alex Smith <vassifer at earthlink.net<mailto:vassifer at earthlink.net>>; A list about all things Killing Joke (the band!) <gathering at misera.net<mailto:gathering at misera.net>>
CC: letranger789 <letranger789 at yahoo.com<mailto:letranger789 at yahoo.com>>
Sent: Sat, 23 Feb 2019 6:17
Subject: Re: [kj] Trump

What do you win?


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On Thursday, February 21, 2019, 2:51 PM, Alex Smith <vassifer at earthlink.net<mailto:vassifer at earthlink.net>> wrote:

I wasn't wrong.

xo,
-Alex in NYC


-----Original Message-----
From: Alex Smith
Sent: Nov 9, 2016 4:31 PM
To: "A list about all things Killing Joke (the band!)" , "A list about all things Killing Joke (the band!)"
Subject: Re: [kj] Trump

I realize there are some sharp differences of opinion here on the Gathering, but as someone who fucking LIVES here, let me just say that I am incalculably ashamed to be an American today.

Regardless of your stance on policy -- not that Trump ever actually discussed any tangible policies -- how anyone could spend five minutes listening to that fatuous bag of excitement attempt to string coherent sentence together and think: "yes, that man should hold the most powerful office in the so-called Free World" is FUCKING STAGGERINGLY BEYOND MY COMPREHENSION.

If you think he's a champion for the unsung ---> You are FUCKING FOOLING yourselves. He DOES NOT CARE about you, and that will doubtlessly become obvious in short, catastrophic order.



If you think he's going to "shake things up" in Washington -----> You are a fucking idiot. Putting Trump in the White House is like putting a lit firecracker in a broken toaster. Is it going to shake things up? You betcha. Is it going to fix anything? NOPE.

The message we are sending to the world and to OUR OWN CHILDREN is that racism, antisemitism, proud anti-intellectualism, nativism, white supremacist ideals, misogyny, sexism, homophobia, the diminishment of a woman's right to choose, bullying, demagoguery, incitement of violence, avarice, wanton tax evasion, totalitarianism, climate change denial and creationism ARE ALL PERFECTLY OKAY.

If you're an American who voted for him here on the Gathering, you have nothing but my undying contempt, and may the god of your choice forgive you, because I sure as FUCK will not.

I have many friends who are striving to make sense of this and espousing messages of solidarity, fortitude and hope. I realize that's the correct thing to do, and that in attempting same, I may find solace and comfort in the words and actions of the many like minds, but I AM NOT THERE YET. NOWHERE CLOSE.

Being a dyed-in-the-wool native New Yorker, I have never had a great amount of faith in my fellow American, because I am inherently a smug fucking snob, and I am PERFECTLY OKAY WITH THAT. But, again, DO NOT BE FOOLED!! Trump doesn't give fuck about the concerns of the American heartland's working families. They were exploited and manipulated by his slavish appeals to the lowest common denominator.

It's simply pathetic. I am sickened to the very core.

FUCK YOU, America.

-Alex in NYC-


















-----Original Message-----
From: Christophe Barry
Sent: Nov 9, 2016 11:57 AM
To: "A list about all things Killing Joke (the band!)"
Subject: Re: [kj] Trump

F*ckin’ ada

De : Gathering <gathering-bounces at misera.net<mailto:gathering-bounces at misera.net>> on behalf of andreas misera via Gathering <gathering at misera.net<mailto:gathering at misera.net>>
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Date : mercredi 9 novembre 2016 09:58
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Cc : andreas misera <andreasmisera at yahoo.de<mailto:andreasmisera at yahoo.de>>, "jpwhkj at aol.com<mailto:jpwhkj at aol.com>" <jpwhkj at aol.com<mailto:jpwhkj at aol.com>>
Objet : Re: [kj] Trump

Germans could say "Ach Du Scheiße" about that result.


Rob Moss <rob.moss at gmx.com<mailto:rob.moss at gmx.com>> schrieb am 12:44 Mittwoch, 9.November 2016:


That's an "English" way of putting it!!

Other words considered could be

Gosh
Golly
my Lord!
Steady on old chap!



What a day Gatherers. What a day.


On 9 Nov 2016, at 09:19, jpwhkj--- via Gathering <gathering at misera.net<mailto:gathering at misera.net>> wrote:

Blimey.


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