[kj] Trump

[Neil Perry]

So Trump is controlling the weather... how is he doing that, exactly?

On Mon, 25 Feb 2019 at 01:54, T.B. <planetary at socal.rr.com> wrote:

> I also didn't vote for Trump - or Clinton.  I thought both were shitty
> candidates and I couldn't in clear conscious cast a vote for either
> candidate. The first time I've ever left the Presidential selection empty.
> Not that it matters, living in California I think something like 90%+ voted
> for Clinton.  I am supremely pissed off at the Republican party for have a
> great opportunity to address the issues with ObamaCare and totally blowing
> the chance.  As far as I'm concerned, both parties can kiss my chocky
> starfish.
>
> I think Trump's turned out be every bit as lousy (certainly stupid) a
> President as expected, but I also think some decent things have happened on
> his watch.  Joe Cosenza brought up a few things in his reply.  Nobody can
> argue the economy is humming along even despite the China trade war.  I
> think he's shined a light on the horrible immigration (legal and illegal)
> situation in this country regardless of how silly his argument for a "wall"
> comes off.  I live in Southern California, I see firsthand how unregulated
> illegal immigration from Mexico is a drain on local resources.  The funny
> thing is, the Obama administration was actually more draconian in deporting
> aliens and was also a proponent of "building a wall" but that got nowhere
> near the attention Trump gets on the issue.
>
> One of the things I don't see discussed much pro or con in regards to
> Trump's tenure, is how he has perhaps inadvertently (just by the way he
> does things) exposed just how fucked up and impotent the Federal government
> has become.  I also don't get how a lot of people that have fixated on
> Trump to the point he seems to dominate their every waking moment.  Sure,
> hate the guy but seriously, with some people it's pathological.  It has
> crept into every online forum I traffic in no matter how non-political some
> of those forums may be.  The whole deal with Jussie Smollett is a microcosm
> of what I'm talking about.   I think some people are going to jump off
> bridges when the Mueller investigation (finally) wraps and calls for
> anything less than Trumps' crucifixion.
>
> I'm old enough to vividly remember the days of Nixon and Carter... a lot
> of shit people complain about right now is first world problems compared to
> some of the nonsense back in the early to late 70's.  Like those goofs,
> we'll all get through the Trump era.  The thing to be aware of, as we've
> been seeing every election cycle things and candidates seem to swing
> farther and farther to the extreme right and left.  I would not be
> surprised if we get an ultra-progressive Liberal like an Alexandria
> Ocasio-Cortez who is 180 degrees the flip side of Trump but equally stupid
> and potentially damaging to the country as POTUS within a decade.
>
> Then again, the way our society is going, I wouldn't be surprised with
> Civil War and the US splitting up like the Soviet Union in the 90's in our
> lifetime.
>
> ++++++++++++++++++
>
>
> From: Gathering [mailto:gathering-bounces at misera.net] On Behalf Of
> jpwhkj--- via Gathering
>
> Hi Joe,
>
> Thanks for responding - interesting points.
>
> One follow-up from me.  You say you didn't vote for him.  Did you vote at
> all (in the 2016 PE)?  And if so, who for (if you don't mind telling us)?
> And crucially - why?
>
> Cheers,
>
> Jamie
>
>
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