[kj] "PUT ON YOUR MASKS ...AND ANIMAL SKINS..."

[Phil Tofield]

"mask debate"

Say that quickly in a Yorkshire accent and you'll understand why I was
giggling like a schoolboy whilst listening to Radio 5 Live on the way home
from work the other day!

Anyway, I don't really want to hear Jaz's views regarding the pandemic 'cos
it'll just make me angry. If he's calling people cowards for wanting a
vaccine then he can just go and fuck himself. I can't stand all this
bullshit conspiracy nonsense around COV-19. I was furloughed for a couple
of months and during that time I did as much research into the pandemic as
I could. I read every research paper I could find and while I won't pretend
to be any kind of an expert (there's enough of them around already!), I've
learnt enough to say quite categorically that it's NOT a hoax. It's got
nothing to do with Bill Gates or 5G or the Illuminati 'pushing the reset
button' on the global economy as I saw someone claim in some forum recently
(I mean, why? Ffs). One of my best mates is an anesthetist, and his wife
works in the hospital morgue. Try telling them it's all a hoax and see what
answer you get!  As Alex said, sometimes these things just happen.  And
*if* a vaccine does become available (which is by no means a given) then
trust me, I will be first in the line.

With regard to masks. I've been wearing one when shopping since the
lockdown began. And gloves. And I sanitize all my shopping when I get home.
I also bought myself one of those granny basket shopping trolley things so
I don't have to use the supermarket trolleys! Maybe this is all a bit over
the top, I don't care. I'll carry on like this as long as I feel its
necessary. I don't understand why some people have an issue with wearing a
mask (certain medical conditions aside of course). If there's the slightest
chance that it'll reduce the infection rate then get over yourself and just
fucking wear one! If you don't want to, then stay at home and starve.

Personally, I've come out relatively unscathed so far. My Auntie and Uncle
had it, as did my Mum I think, although she only had mild symptoms. I work
for a small forklift company and although we've had to make a couple of
people redundant, I think we'll survive. Unless there's another lockdown of
course, and then all bets are off.....

Anyway stay safe Gatherers. And ignore the shit Jaz comes out with!

Phil


On Fri, 17 Jul 2020 at 15:59, Alex Smith <vassifer at earthlink.net> wrote:

>
> Good morning, all....
>
> I'm sure some of you have seen Jaz's latest video blog entry via his new
> black'n'red page. If not, the link is out there... it's Jaz speaking to his
> cellphone (he must have one, now?) from somewhere in Central America, where
> he's working on some new classical music (a piano concerto).
>
> Content-wise, it's typical Coleman ... talking up his latest project ("The
> Day the Earth Went Mad") and suggesting that its success has been
>  unprecedented ... which I think *might* be a *bit* of an overstatement,
> but I haven't seen any figures to suggest one way or the other.
>
> Beyond that, Jaz speaks elliptically about the current world health
> crisis, affirming that he believes nothing is accidental on a geopolitical
> level (translation: the pandemic was somehow orchestrated? ... or, at the
> very least, being used as an opportunity by "them"). He gravely asserts
> repeatedly throughout the clip that he will not succumb to "compulsory
> vaccination" and alluding to comments Bill Gates allegedly made about
> curtailing overpopulation. He also alludes to own own precognitive prowess
> for predicting such things. All in a day's work for our Jaz, of course.
>
> He does *NOT* get into the mask debate, although I'm quite certain he has
> thoughts on the matter. He does not sport a mask in the clip, but then...
> he appears to be alone during proceedings.
>
> My question here is this, dear Gatherers... where do YOU stand on these
> issues?
>
> I know Jaz has pretty much never met a conspiracy theory he didn't like,
> but I cannot say that I share his view on this point. I don't have enough
> faith in my fellow man to be able to orchestrate such things. Sometimes a
> tremendous calamity is just that .. a tremendous calamity. You, of course,
> may beg to differ.
>
> Here in the States, of course, it is the very definition of a clusterfuck.
> While New York has managed to more or less get onboard and bring the
> infection rate down (which is not to say it won't spike up again),
> seemingly the rest of the nation simply cannot get their heads around it.
> While I'd always harbored by own preconceptions about my fellow countrymen,
> this crisis has only confirmed them. By and large, Americans are selfish,
> arrogant, myopic and willfully ignorant. Prove me wrong.
>
> I do not pretend to know what is going to happen next, but as there is no
> vaccine at the moment, I have no great hope of a return to "normalcy"
> occurring any time soon. I raised this point on the Jaz Coleman Facebook
> page, and earned a quick rejoinder suggesting that I am basically being
> conditioned into craving a vaccine via propaganda. Personally speaking, I
> find this worldview somewhat dim.
>
> Our government already has more of my information than can be quantified
> by my social security number, my tax information and pretty much all my
> vital statistics, to say nothing of the the phone I regularly carry around
> with me.
>
> I don't believe COVID-19 was created in a lab. I also don't believe it's a
> hoax. There are still morgues in the streets of New York City. It's all
> very real.
>
> I don't believe wearing a mask is an impingement on my personal,
> Constitutionally protected freedoms. At worst, it's a mild inconvenience.
> As has been said elsewhere, if you think wearing a mask is uncomfortable,
> WAIT `TIL YOU TRY THE VENTILATOR.
>
> Myself and my immediate family have all been safe and healthy, but we do
> know several folks who've been infected, and their stories of their
> experiences are fairly harrowing.
>
> What are YOUR feelings and experiences with this, so far?
>
> Alex in NYC
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