[kj] Governments Should Stop Being A Killing Joke - The Light truthpaper interviews Jaz

Thu Apr 8 08:16:45 EDT 2021

I think most people would disagree, but then that seems to be the point at
this stage. Back to square one. Looking like a two tier society on the
horizon, vaccinated and non vaccinated. As if things were not bad enough : (

Normally I'd be a little more optimistic, but it's hard to see any silver
linings these days. Anyway, sorry, just feeling a bit down, off work with
an injured cuff rotator, so feeling useless. It'll pass : )

On Thu, 8 Apr 2021 at 12:57, Jim Harper via Gathering <gathering at misera.net>
wrote:

> I think most people in Japan would disagree.
> On Thursday, 8 April 2021, 20:54:16 GMT+9, Lesley Lee <
> lesleyslee at live.co.uk> wrote:
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> "...the wearing of masks has been demonstrably effective in curtailing the
> contagion"
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> No. It hasn't.
>
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> *From:* Gathering <gathering-bounces at misera.net> on behalf of Alex Smith <
> vassifer at earthlink.net>
> *Sent:* 03 April 2021 18:35
> *To:* A list about all things Killing Joke (the band!) <
> gathering at misera.net>; A list about all things Killing Joke (the band!) <
> gathering at misera.net>
> *Subject:* Re: [kj] Governments Should Stop Being A Killing Joke - The
> Light truthpaper interviews Jaz
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> I mean, on the one hand, it really is "classic" Jaz Coleman. There has
> truly never been a point wherein he HASN'T be preoccupied with
> conspiracies. From "Are You Receiving?" through PYLON (and, I guess, "The
> Day The Earth Went Mad," not that I bought that), Jaz's worldview has been
> singularly defined by an inherent skepticism about (and a contrarianism
> towards) the party line, so to speak. It's what he is. It's what he does.
> It's nothing new. But, I have to say, in this instance, it gives me pause.
> He's certainly said some outrageously indefensible things in the past ("I
> want to be a suicide bomber," etc.), but the puffy-chested espousal of not
> wearing masks in this instance just strikes me as a bridge too far. Okay,
> for the sake of argument, let's go along with Jaz's assertion that the
> pandemic (notice I did not put that word in quotation marks?) was a
> weaponized, orchestrated initiative --- even if that *was* indeed the case,
> the wearing of masks has been demonstrably effective in curtailing the
> contagion. So, whether it was caused by a sinister cabal or it was indeed
> some kind of accident or natural occurrence is immaterial. By not wearing a
> mask and endorsing same, he is being willfully irresponsible and ostensibly
> putting his fellow human being at risk by his lack of consideration. This
> is all my interpretation and opinion, so ... y'know ... make of it what you
> will, but I find this particular stance pretty indefensible (not too unlike
> Lydon backing Trump). My two cents.
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Were Wolf
> Sent: Apr 3, 2021 12:07 PM
> To: "A list about all things Killing Joke (the band!)"
> Subject: Re: [kj] Governments Should Stop Being A Killing Joke - The Light
> truthpaper interviews Jaz
>
> It does sound ominous when he says:
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> "I am the archetypal fool; I will talk about the things people don't want
> to talk about. I will continue to do so, until they shut me up. When that
> is? Couldn't give a fuck!"
>
> I feel the guy has a right to free speech and free expression as we all
> should as individuals with our own personal opinions and beliefs, while not
> agreeing 100% with everything he says.
>
> There has in fact been a backlash over the past few weeks from the BBC,
> Tories and Lib Dems to that particular issue being pushed through people's
> letterboxes.
>
> https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/56420379
> <https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/56420379>
> Covid-19 leaflets: How pandemic disinformation went offline
> <https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/56420379>
> If you thought misleading coronavirus information was just circulating
> online - think again.
> www.bbc.co.uk
>
>
> https://www.libdemvoice.org/the-word-truth-is-being-hijacked-by-fake-news-conspiracy-theorists-who-claim-their-dark-ideas-are-light-67040.html
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> <https://www.libdemvoice.org/the-word-truth-is-being-hijacked-by-fake-news-conspiracy-theorists-who-claim-their-dark-ideas-are-light-67040.html>
> The word “truth” is being hijacked by fake news conspiracy theorists who
> claim their dark ideas are light - Liberal Democrat Voice
> <https://www.libdemvoice.org/the-word-truth-is-being-hijacked-by-fake-news-conspiracy-theorists-who-claim-their-dark-ideas-are-light-67040.html>
> There have been too many victims of Covid-19. People for whom coronavirus
> was the primary cause of death. Many others whose death was accelerated or
> whose recovery from other diseases was ...
> www.libdemvoice.org
>
> http://www.wellington-today.co.uk/article.cfm?id=119727&headline=Anti-vaccine
>
> <http://www.wellington-today.co.uk/article.cfm?id=119727&headline=Anti-vaccine>
> Anti-vaccine paper ‘pedals conspiracy theory madness’
> <http://www.wellington-today.co.uk/article.cfm?id=119727&headline=Anti-vaccine>
> DISTRIBUTION of anti-Covid vaccination newspaper The Light to homes in
> Wellington and surrounding areas was this week condemned in the strongest
> terms by Somerset county councillor John Thorne.
> www.wellington-today.co.uk
>
> The Guardian was a bit more balanced and actually interviewed the guy who
> produces the paper.
>
>
> https://www.theguardian.com/world/2020/nov/27/truthpaper-the-anti-lockdown-newspaper-bypassing-online-fact-checkers
>
> <https://www.theguardian.com/world/2020/nov/27/truthpaper-the-anti-lockdown-newspaper-bypassing-online-fact-checkers>
> How an anti-lockdown 'truthpaper' bypasses online factcheckers |
> Newspapers & magazines - the Guardian
> <https://www.theguardian.com/world/2020/nov/27/truthpaper-the-anti-lockdown-newspaper-bypassing-online-fact-checkers>
> W hen the factcheckers tried to find the source of a viral photo that was
> spreading across Facebook, they were confused. The picture – which had been
> uploaded by users in the UK, US, Australia ...
> www.theguardian.com
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> *From:* Gathering <gathering-bounces at misera.net> on behalf of Stephen
> Robinson via Gathering <gathering at misera.net>
> *Sent:* 02 April 2021 09:15
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> *Cc:* Stephen Robinson <greyquad405 at yahoo.co.uk>
> *Subject:* Re: [kj] Governments Should Stop Being A Killing Joke - The
> Light truthpaper interviews Jaz
>
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> https://thelightpaper.co.uk/assets/pdf/The-Light-Issue-6.pdf
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> ‘kin’ Hell…
>
> I can honestly hope the '#cancelled mob'™ don’t hear about this.
>
> In the past this would have been ignored as the raving of an idio,err
> eccentric artist, but now, it’s career ending.
>
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