[kj] Jaz's "Anti-Zionism" + "Anti-Judaism": Are Killing Joke "Anti-Semitic"?

[Stephen Robinson]

I really don’t want to get involved in this, but " However, according to the IHRA Definition of Anti-Semitism, Anti-Zionism is Anti-Semitic.”

Is simply not true.

https://holocaustremembrance.com/resources/working-definitions-charters/working-definition-antisemitism

"Manifestations might include the targeting of the state of Israel, conceived as a Jewish collectivity. However, criticism of Israel similar to that leveled against any other country cannot be regarded as antisemitic.”

And New Jerusalem is more about the William Blake's Jerusalem than a city in the levant. 


> On 12 May 2022, at 16:55, Were Wolf <werewolf68 at hotmail.co.uk> wrote:
> 
> Jaz is on record as being against Zionism not the Jewish people themselves, some of whom he knows and has worked with personally. However, according to the IHRA Definition of Anti-Semitism, Anti-Zionism is Anti-Semitic. Ex-Labour Party leader Jeremy Corbyn (who Jaz said in an interview "...seems like an okay guy"), and Jewish Anti-Zionists such as Tony Greenstein, Neturei Karta and Jews for Justice for Palestinians have all been labelled as "Anti-Semitic".
> 
> https://www.loudersound.com/features/thinking-out-loud-killing-joke-s-jaz-coleman-1 <https://www.loudersound.com/features/thinking-out-loud-killing-joke-s-jaz-coleman-1>
> 
> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PABlOnlMEhY <https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PABlOnlMEhY>
>  <https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PABlOnlMEhY>	
> New Jerusalem with lyrics - YouTube <https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PABlOnlMEhY>
> New Jerusalem with lyrics by Killing Joke
> www.youtube.com <http://www.youtube.com/>
> 
> 
> "It should be noted that to the orthodox zionist, my interpretations would naturally be viewed as sacrilegious propaganda, but I ask should we restrict the relevance of such prophecies to the nationalist-religious movement of Judaism or do they have a broader significance?...Surely Divine Intelligence is essentially globalist or universal as opposed to being favourable only to a 'chosen' people."
> 
> Jaz "An Irrational Domain"
> 
> http://www.jokerplace.net/odic/aid-odic4.html <http://www.jokerplace.net/odic/aid-odic4.html>
> 
> "The group, infamous for its... anti-zionist remarks..."
> 
> http://four.pairlist.net/pipermail/gathering/2012-February/114836.html <http://four.pairlist.net/pipermail/gathering/2012-February/114836.html>
> 
> "Christianity, Judaism and Islam...all these ugly religions have to go."
> 
> Jaz "Mike James Rockshow" Interview video
> 
> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VC8xpCqt2hs <https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VC8xpCqt2hs>
>  <https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VC8xpCqt2hs>	
> Killing Joke Interview 2015 <https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VC8xpCqt2hs>
> Mike was lucky to be granted an audience with Jas Coleman for the legendary band Killing Joke, In this lengthy interview no stones are left upturned as they talk about the state of the planet, politics, economics, the future of the world population and their new album Pylon. This is probably one of the most insightful interviews of the year ...
> www.youtube.com <http://www.youtube.com/>
> 
> 
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