From ron at psymon.com Mon May 25 15:37:53 2009 From: ron at psymon.com (Ron Koster) Date: Mon, 25 May 2009 15:37:53 -0400 Subject: [LEN-E] High-Resolution & Widescreen Wallpapers Message-ID: <20090525193654.207E92BCB8@mailwash40.pair.com> Hi folks! Firstly, just a note that the list archives have been, uh, "fixed" (as last week). ;) Secondly (and the main reason I'm popping in here today), last year I picked up a nice widescreen monitor for myself, and in doing so it suddenly hit me that this seems to be becoming a popular trend, but as a result virtually all of the desktop wallpapers that I'd previously done were simply no good for anyone with a monitor resolution higher than 1024x768, let alone for those with monitors in a widescreen format. And so this year I began the rather tedious process of re-doing all of my digital art wallpapers, both at various higher resolutions as well as -- more tediously -- in widescreen formats. I'm afraid that, unfortunately, it'll probably be a while before I get anything more back up on my site like it was before (i.e. all the filmographies, etc.), but if only to have *something* that visitors can have in the meantime, I've put back all those wallpapers for downloading... http://www.riefenstahl.org/downloads/wallpaper/ ...featuring, of course, all those higher-resolution and widescreen formats! *All* of my old wallpapers have now been re-done -- except for one, namely, the one called "Meine Leidenschaft", which I basically need to spend a little more time on in order to correct some mistakes I made the first time around. In addition, I also re-did the "Kristalleni" piece (which you will find there) and gave the picture a nice waterfall background (created from a frame enlargement of the waterfall in "Das blaue Licht"). PLEASE NOTE (AND PLEASE HELP!): I haven't added a link to this page from the opening "splash" page yet, because I'm a bit concerned that perhaps there might be issues with the new way in which I presented the pop-up "preview" versions for all the wallpapers. I spent much of the last week (off and on) trying to fix some issues that this script had in the Firefox browser -- as far as I know, everything should hopefully be working okay now in both Internet Explorer and Firefox (and on a Windows platform), but I haven't tested it in any other browsers, let alone on a Mac platform. If anyone experiences any problems/issues with the pop-up preview versions for the wallpapers (or any other problems, of course), can you *please* let me know? It would be VERY much appreciated, if it's not too much trouble (and please let me know what platform you're on -- i.e. Windows or Mac -- and what browser you were using). Thanks -- and enjoy! Download to your heart's content! Indeed, the higher-resolution versions are certainly good enough that you could also print them out quite nicely (for personal use only) at a reasonably large size, if you're inclined to do so. Ron :) Woof?... http://www.Psymon.com Ach, du Leni!... http://www.Riefenstahl.org Hmm... http://www.Imaginary-Friend.ca From luc.deneulin at skynet.be Mon May 25 13:45:18 2009 From: luc.deneulin at skynet.be (Luc Deneulin) Date: Mon, 25 May 2009 19:45:18 +0200 Subject: [LEN-E] Olympia Message-ID: <91B4C587-7147-4D52-92B0-0A36D0371F27@skynet.be> Hi I have - after such a long time of research - still no evidence how Riefenstahl came to make Olympia. There are hypothesises, the one moreprobably than the other * Goebbels commissioned her * Carl Diem (German Ol Com) commissioned her * Hitler commissioned her * Riefenstahl asked it herself to Hitler when L. Trenker got the mission from Goebbels afterwhich Trenker went to America. What do you think?? Another question Ihave: - who is this mysterious Erna Peeters who was an assisent -editor????? Best regards From roelvanderlist at home.nl Mon May 25 17:36:51 2009 From: roelvanderlist at home.nl (Roel van der List) Date: Mon, 25 May 2009 23:36:51 +0200 Subject: [LEN-E] High-Resolution & Widescreen Wallpapers In-Reply-To: <20090525193654.207E92BCB8@mailwash40.pair.com> References: <20090525193654.207E92BCB8@mailwash40.pair.com> Message-ID: <448CB8D6-E9A8-49CD-8684-A2C906E86D91@home.nl> Op 25-mei-2009, om 21:37 heeft Ron Koster het volgende geschreven: > Hi folks! > If anyone experiences any problems/issues with the pop-up preview > versions for the wallpapers (or any other problems, of course), can > you *please* let me know? It would be VERY much appreciated, if > it's not too much trouble (and please let me know what platform > you're on -- i.e. Windows or Mac -- and what browser you were using). Hi Ron, nice work!!!! I had no problems with the previews, working with OSX 10.4.11 and Firefox 3.0.10 on a MacBookPro Intel. Greetings, Roel Roel van der List Burgemeester Joostenlaan 17 6019 BX Wessem Tel: 0475-562708 roelvanderlist at home.nl http://home.fotocommunity.de/graphiclist/index.php?id=499045 From euthymios2003 at yahoo.com Mon May 25 17:44:05 2009 From: euthymios2003 at yahoo.com (Euthymios Marston) Date: Mon, 25 May 2009 14:44:05 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [LEN-E] Olympia Message-ID: <165002.8242.qm@web33107.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Based on what I have read, I believe either that Hitler commissioned her to do Olympia and/or she may have asked him to do it.? Hitler and Riefenstahl were apparently friends with a great mutual admiration for each other's abilities, although, of course, they were never lovers and she never joined the Nazi Party.? Hitler recognized her genius and utilized it.? Although Leni was mostly apolitical, she recognized Hitler's considerable political ability and may have believed at one time, as many Germans did, that he was the leader who could save Germany. It is unlikely that Goebbels would have commissioned Leni, or, if he did so, it would have only been as a result of a direct order from Hitler.? Goebbels was a vain man who hated Leni as a rival; he resented her independence from him and the fact that she was a woman only aggravated his resentment.? It is also possible that Goebbels, a notorious womanizer, may have propositioned Leni and been turned down. --- On Mon, 5/25/09, Luc Deneulin wrote: From: Luc Deneulin Subject: [LEN-E] Olympia To: "Discussion forum about the life and work of Leni Riefenstahl" Date: Monday, May 25, 2009, 1:45 PM Hi I have - after such a long time of research - still no evidence how Riefenstahl came to make Olympia. There are hypothesises, the one moreprobably than the other * Goebbels commissioned her * Carl Diem (German Ol Com) commissioned her * Hitler commissioned her * Riefenstahl asked it herself to Hitler when L. Trenker got the mission from Goebbels afterwhich Trenker went to America. What do you think?? Another question Ihave: - who is this mysterious Erna Peeters who was an assisent -editor????? Best regards _______________________________________________ NOTE 1: PLEASE TRIM THE QUOTED PORTION(S) OF YOUR REPLIES! NOTE 2: IF YOU CHANGE TOPIC, CHANGE THE SUBJECT HEADING! List Info: http://four.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/len-e/ Your List Options: http://four.pairlist.net/mailman/options/len-e/ List Archives: http://four.pairlist.net/pipermail/len-e/ To Unsubscribe: mailto:len-e-request at riefenstahl.org?subject=unsubscribe From luc.deneulin at skynet.be Tue May 26 02:45:58 2009 From: luc.deneulin at skynet.be (Luc Deneulin) Date: Tue, 26 May 2009 08:45:58 +0200 Subject: [LEN-E] High-Resolution & Widescreen Wallpapers In-Reply-To: <448CB8D6-E9A8-49CD-8684-A2C906E86D91@home.nl> References: <20090525193654.207E92BCB8@mailwash40.pair.com> <448CB8D6-E9A8-49CD-8684-A2C906E86D91@home.nl> Message-ID: As you gave your site URL? Roel, your own photography is quite interesting! Best regards Luc On 25 May 2009, at 23:36, Roel van der List wrote: Op 25-mei-2009, om 21:37 heeft Ron Koster het volgende geschreven: > Hi folks! > If anyone experiences any problems/issues with the pop-up preview > versions for the wallpapers (or any other problems, of course), can > you *please* let me know? It would be VERY much appreciated, if it's > not too much trouble (and please let me know what platform you're on > -- i.e. Windows or Mac -- and what browser you were using). Hi Ron, From luc.deneulin at skynet.be Tue May 26 02:46:18 2009 From: luc.deneulin at skynet.be (Luc Deneulin) Date: Tue, 26 May 2009 08:46:18 +0200 Subject: [LEN-E] Olympia In-Reply-To: <165002.8242.qm@web33107.mail.mud.yahoo.com> References: <165002.8242.qm@web33107.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Message-ID: Interesting Euthymios - Riefenstahl as from the 70ies denied that it was Hitler, but she changed her stories very often. What I have found however is proof that the financing of the film was made by the Ministry of Economical Affairs which transfered to the Ministry of Propaganda who transfered to a phantom producers company where Riefenstahl could take the money from. On 25 May 2009, at 23:44, Euthymios Marston wrote: Based on what I have read, I believe either that Hitler commissioned her to do Olympia and/or she may have asked him to do it. Hitler and Riefenstahl were apparently friends with a great mutual admiration for each other's abilities, although, of course, they were never lovers and she never joined the Nazi Party. Hitler recognized her genius and utilized it. Although Leni was mostly apolitical, she recognized Hitler's considerable political ability and may have believed at one time, as many Germans did, that he was the leader who could save Germany. It is unlikely that Goebbels would have commissioned Leni, or, if he did so, it would have only been as a result of a direct order from Hitler. Goebbels was a vain man who hated Leni as a rival; he resented her independence from him and the fact that she was a woman only aggravated his resentment. It is also possible that Goebbels, a notorious womanizer, may have propositioned Leni and been turned down. --- On Mon, 5/25/09, Luc Deneulin wrote: From: Luc Deneulin Subject: [LEN-E] Olympia To: "Discussion forum about the life and work of Leni Riefenstahl" Date: Monday, May 25, 2009, 1:45 PM Hi I have - after such a long time of research - still no evidence how Riefenstahl came to make Olympia. There are hypothesises, the one moreprobably than the other * Goebbels commissioned her * Carl Diem (German Ol Com) commissioned her * Hitler commissioned her * Riefenstahl asked it herself to Hitler when L. Trenker got the mission from Goebbels afterwhich Trenker went to America. What do you think?? Another question Ihave: - who is this mysterious Erna Peeters who was an assisent -editor????? From ron at psymon.com Tue May 26 13:27:10 2009 From: ron at psymon.com (Ron Koster) Date: Tue, 26 May 2009 13:27:10 -0400 Subject: [LEN-E] Please... Message-ID: <20090526172714.8D0F42BD72@mailwash40.pair.com> ...trim your messages, folks (i.e. the parts that you're quoting from the previous messages that you're replying to). I'm not going to, but I'm certainly tempted to put everyone here on "daily digest" mode (as several list members already are) just so that you can see how incredibly annoying (if not confusing) it is when people don't trim their replies. What it really boils down to is simply treating other people (i.e. your fellow list members) with nothing less than a reasonable level of respect -- and that's all, nothing more, and nothing less. Ron :/ PS. Thanks for your response re the wallpaper page, Roel! I'm still a bit worried (paranoid?) that the "preview" gallery might not work in certain browsers, but it's certainly reassuring to hear that it worked okay for you! :) Woof?... http://www.Psymon.com Ach, du Leni!... http://www.Riefenstahl.org Hmm... http://www.Imaginary-Friend.ca From luc.deneulin at skynet.be Tue May 26 14:53:52 2009 From: luc.deneulin at skynet.be (Luc Deneulin) Date: Tue, 26 May 2009 20:53:52 +0200 Subject: [LEN-E] Please... In-Reply-To: <20090526172714.8D0F42BD72@mailwash40.pair.com> References: <20090526172714.8D0F42BD72@mailwash40.pair.com> Message-ID: <813C0EF9-9E43-4F49-917A-6B34285089DD@skynet.be> Yes, excuse that I sometmes forget to do so, I am only human, but I will do my utter best. Since I'm moderate as member (!!!! what an honour) you could have blocqued my message simply Best regards and appologies luc deneulin On 26 May 2009, at 19:27, Ron Koster wrote: ...trim your messages, folks (i.e. the parts that you're quoting from the previous messages that you're replying to). From ron at psymon.com Tue May 26 15:28:14 2009 From: ron at psymon.com (Ron Koster) Date: Tue, 26 May 2009 15:28:14 -0400 Subject: [LEN-E] Please... In-Reply-To: <813C0EF9-9E43-4F49-917A-6B34285089DD@skynet.be> References: <20090526172714.8D0F42BD72@mailwash40.pair.com> <813C0EF9-9E43-4F49-917A-6B34285089DD@skynet.be> Message-ID: <20090526192817.284CA2BD04@mailwash40.pair.com> At 08:53 PM 5/26/2009 +0200, Luc Deneulin wrote: >Since I'm moderate as member (!!!! what an >honour) It's exactly because of remarks like that ("what an honour") which is why you're moderated, Luc. >you could have blocqued my message simply Yes, I could have -- but you weren't the only person not trimming their posts to the list, so don't take it *too* personally. I don't know, maybe it's just me, but it's truly beyond me that anyone would choose to not do that with *any* reply to *anyone*, on-list (any list) or off. It makes for clarity, and succinctness, and getting one's "message" across (both literally and figuratively). But hey, if people prefer to be *not* understood, and prefer to leave their readers both confused and annoyed, that's up to that writer/responder. Here, on this list, though, I only ask that list members treat each other with some modicum of respect (which includes not only trimming one's messages/replies, but also not making "snarky", openly disrespectful comments, like the one above). Ron :/ Woof?... http://www.Psymon.com Ach, du Leni!... http://www.Riefenstahl.org Hmm... http://www.Imaginary-Friend.ca From roelvanderlist at home.nl Tue May 26 15:32:38 2009 From: roelvanderlist at home.nl (Roel van der List) Date: Tue, 26 May 2009 21:32:38 +0200 Subject: [LEN-E] High-Resolution & Widescreen Wallpapers In-Reply-To: References: <20090525193654.207E92BCB8@mailwash40.pair.com> <448CB8D6-E9A8-49CD-8684-A2C906E86D91@home.nl> Message-ID: Op 26-mei-2009, om 8:45 heeft Luc Deneulin het volgende geschreven: > As you gave your site URL? Roel, your own photography is quite > interesting! > Well, I'am just trying............:) But thanks! Roel From len-e at nhaysom.com Tue May 26 16:19:30 2009 From: len-e at nhaysom.com (Nick Haysom) Date: Tue, 26 May 2009 21:19:30 +0100 Subject: [LEN-E] Please... In-Reply-To: <20090526172714.8D0F42BD72@mailwash40.pair.com> References: <20090526172714.8D0F42BD72@mailwash40.pair.com> Message-ID: Ron, I know you keep on about this and I sympathise but I fear you are waging a losing battle. It is second nature for most people to hit Reply and add their comments without thinking to delete preceding comments; I think only with AOL is the default *not* to quote the previous message. It is also *logical* in that people feel they are responding to the totality of the thread. A huge advantage is that messages can stand alone within their context, and it is not necessary to search back thru the list to discover what initiated a thread or to locate a reference point. I would also point out that those who subscribe to the digest appear to be almost exclusively lurkers and one might ask why those who post should conform to the preferences of those who don't. I'm afraid I don't see what on earth this has to do with treating other people with respect. Moreover, traffic on this list is not so high a daily digest is really called for. Sorry, I'm off my soapbox now. I just feel that as you keep bringing this up it might be an idea to discuss it a bit, particularly as in many years of membership of many many online lists I have never encountered this particular instruction elsewhere. I accept, of course, that this is your list and I will try to remember to trim... as here (but at what point in the thread am I now replying...?) Nick From ron at psymon.com Tue May 26 17:03:35 2009 From: ron at psymon.com (Ron Koster) Date: Tue, 26 May 2009 17:03:35 -0400 Subject: [LEN-E] Please... In-Reply-To: References: <20090526172714.8D0F42BD72@mailwash40.pair.com> Message-ID: <20090526210338.54C9A2BD04@mailwash40.pair.com> At 09:19 PM 5/26/2009 +0100, Nick Haysom wrote: >Ron, I know you keep on about this and I sympathise but I fear you >are waging a losing battle. So it would seem. ;) >It is second nature for most people to hit Reply and add their >comments without thinking to delete preceding comments I suppose it depends on the person, because for me it's second nature to trim and respond to include portions of whatever I'm responding to -- basically like I'm doing right here, actually. You have my response, and you can see quite easily and clearly what it is that I'm responding to. But like I said, I guess that's just me? Well, not "only" me, of course (lots of people reply like this), but there's obviously no "rules" when it comes to writing style (we wouldn't have poetry, if that was the case!). ;) >A huge advantage is that messages can stand alone within their >context, and it is not necessary to search back thru the list to >discover what initiated a thread or to locate a reference point. I think my reply here would stand on its own quite well. ;) >I would also point out that those who subscribe to the digest appear >to be almost exclusively lurkers and one might ask why those who >post should conform to the preferences of those who don't. Well, it's not just for those on digest that it's a good idea to trim (and/or edit) one's responses -- it's just that those are the people most affected by others not doing so. >I'm afraid I don't see what on earth this has to do with treating >other people with respect. I don't know how to explain it -- but then, perhaps I am indeed being a bit too much of a "stickler" on this matter. >Moreover, traffic on this list is not so high a daily digest is >really called for. Maybe so, but that *is* some people's choice, to be on digest instead of receiving individual messages. >Sorry, I'm off my soapbox now. That's okay -- it's important to use soap. ;) >I just feel that as you keep bringing this up it might be an idea to >discuss it a bit, Which we are -- and I appreciate the discussion. The last thing I want to be is a "list Nazi". ;) >particularly as in many years of membership of many many online >lists I have never encountered this particular instruction elsewhere. Actually, for many -- perhaps even most -- of the many different lists that I've been on over the years, that *has* been a "list rule". Indeed, on some lists one can even end up thrown off if one doesn't follow that "rule" (but I would certainly never go *that* far here on this list). And on other lists where there are no "rules" at all, messages can get absolutely ridiculous sometimes, with people responding with little more than "Me too" or "I agree", but then including the entire previous 10-page message that they're responding to. Like I said, though, maybe I'm being too much of a stickler over this. And so... well, whatever. I appreciate this discussion, and your thoughts/concerns, so maybe let's give it a shot and I won't nit-pick over this issue any more. After all, it hasn't really been *that* bad, but at the same time I can also certainly understand that it can be difficult (at times) for those on digest mode (especially). But we'll see what happens, I guess. >I accept, of course, that this is your list and I will try to >remember to trim... as here (but at what point in the thread am I >now replying...?) I have no idea what you're referring to. (just kidding) Ron ;) Woof?... http://www.Psymon.com Ach, du Leni!... http://www.Riefenstahl.org Hmm... http://www.Imaginary-Friend.ca