[LTC-Sales_Discussions] LTC claims time

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You can start by doing some homework. Go to YOUR states insurance website
and print out the consumer complaint reports of the companies you represent
and that of your competitions. Make sure the companies you represent have
low complaint ratios. Each state will be different. That way you can build
credibility with potential clients. The attachment shows a copy of Conseco
Senior Health Insurance Co. report in the great state of PA. Etc.etc.etc.A
high complaint ratio means a poor history of paying claims and consumer
satisfaction.

 

Now print them out for your state.

 

Be the experts you claim to be.

 

Alan M. Freed 

Senior Market Insurance Specialist

534 W. Caracas Ave.

Hershey, PA 17033

717-533-5149

-----Original Message-----
From: ltc-sales_discussions-admin@ltpcalums.com
[mailto:ltc-sales_discussions-admin@ltpcalums.com] On Behalf Of Eric Couch
Sent: Wednesday, October 29, 2003 4:48 PM
To: 'ltc-sales_discussions@ltpcalums.com'
Subject: [LTC-Sales_Discussions] LTC claims time

 

Where does one find out which companies have a history of paying claims &
which don't?

 

Also, I've repeatedly heard rumor & I stress rumor that GE LTC has had a
problem paying claims.  I find that hard to swallow and would love input on
it & where this is coming from.  Opinions are great, but I'm looking for
documented facts.

Make it SIMPLE.  Make it CLEAR.  Make it HAPPEN. 
                     -V. Eric Couch, CSA, CLTC

                      vecouch@bordenhamman.com   
                      800-492-9190 ofc 
                      Annuity & Long Term Care Marketing Co-Dir.


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style=3D'font-size:
12.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'>You can start by doing some =
homework. Go
to YOUR states insurance website and print out the consumer complaint =
reports
of the companies you represent and that of your competitions. Make sure =
the
companies you represent have low complaint ratios. Each state will be
different. That way you can build credibility with potential clients. =
The
attachment shows a copy of Conseco Senior Health Insurance Co. report in =
the
great state of PA. Etc&#8230;etc&#8230;etc&#8230;A high complaint ratio =
means a
poor history of paying claims and consumer =
satisfaction.</span></font></p>

<p class=3DMsoNormal><font size=3D4 color=3Dnavy face=3DArial><span =
style=3D'font-size:
14.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'>&nbsp;</span></font></p>

<p class=3DMsoNormal><font size=3D4 color=3Dnavy face=3DAlgerian><span
style=3D'font-size:14.0pt;font-family:Algerian;color:navy'>Now print =
them out for
your state.</span></font></p>

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face=3DJokerman><span
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d'>Be
the experts you claim to be.</span></font></b></p>

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style=3D'font-size:
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<p class=3DMsoNormal><font size=3D2 color=3Dnavy face=3DArial><span =
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Specialist</span></font></p>

<p class=3DMsoNormal><font size=3D2 color=3Dnavy face=3DArial><span =
style=3D'font-size:
10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'>534 W. Caracas =
Ave.</span></font></p>

<p class=3DMsoNormal><font size=3D2 color=3Dnavy face=3DArial><span =
style=3D'font-size:
10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'>Hershey, PA 17033</span></font></p>

<p class=3DMsoNormal><font size=3D2 color=3Dnavy face=3DArial><span =
style=3D'font-size:
10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'>717-533-5149</span></font></p>

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face=3DTahoma><span
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Tahoma'>-----Original =
Message-----<br>
<b><span style=3D'font-weight:bold'>From:</span></b>
ltc-sales_discussions-admin@ltpcalums.com =
[mailto:ltc-sales_discussions-admin@ltpcalums.com]
<b><span style=3D'font-weight:bold'>On Behalf Of </span></b>Eric =
Couch<br>
<b><span style=3D'font-weight:bold'>Sent:</span></b> Wednesday, October =
29, 2003
4:48 PM<br>
<b><span style=3D'font-weight:bold'>To:</span></b> '</span></font><font =
size=3D2
 face=3DTahoma><span =
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Tahoma'>ltc-sales_discussions@ltpca=
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style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Tahoma'>'<br>
<b><span style=3D'font-weight:bold'>Subject:</span></b> =
[LTC-Sales_Discussions]
LTC claims time</span></font></p>

<p class=3DMsoNormal style=3D'margin-left:.5in'><font size=3D3 =
face=3D"Times New Roman"><span
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<p class=3DMsoNormal style=3D'margin-left:.5in'><font size=3D4 =
color=3Dblue
face=3DGaramond><span =
style=3D'font-size:13.5pt;font-family:Garamond;color:blue'>Where
does one find out which companies have a <strong><b><font =
face=3DGaramond><span
style=3D'font-family:Garamond'>history of paying claims &amp; which =
don't</span></font></b></strong>?</span></font></p>

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<p class=3DMsoNormal style=3D'margin-left:.5in'><font size=3D3 =
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style=3D'font-size:12.0pt'>&nbsp;</span></font></p>

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<p class=3DMsoNormal style=3D'margin-left:.5in'><font size=3D4 =
color=3Dblue
face=3DGaramond><span =
style=3D'font-size:13.5pt;font-family:Garamond;color:blue'>Also,
I've repeatedly&nbsp;<strong><b><font face=3DGaramond><span =
style=3D'font-family:
Garamond'>heard rumor</span></font></b></strong> &amp; I stress rumor =
that <strong><b><font
face=3DGaramond><span style=3D'font-family:Garamond'>GE LTC has =
had&nbsp;a problem
paying claims</span></font></b></strong>.&nbsp; I find that hard to =
swallow and
would love input on it &amp; where this is coming from.&nbsp; Opinions =
are
great, but <u>I'm looking&nbsp;for documented =
facts</u>.</span></font></p>

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face=3DGaramond><span
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Garamond;color:purple'>Make it
SIMPLE.&nbsp; Make it CLEAR.&nbsp; Make it HAPPEN.</span></font><font =
size=3D2><span
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt'>&nbsp;<br>
</span></font><font size=3D2 color=3Dnavy face=3DGaramond><span =
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p;&nbsp;&nbsp;
-<b><span style=3D'font-weight:bold'>V. Eric Couch, CSA, =
CLTC</span></b>&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbs=
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vecouch@bordenhamman.com&nbsp;&nbsp; </span></font><font size=3D2><span
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt'><br>
</span></font><font size=3D2 color=3Dnavy face=3DGaramond><span =
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p;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;
800-492-9190 ofc</span></font><font size=3D2><span =
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt'>&nbsp;<br>
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Annuity &amp; Long Term Care Marketing</span></font><font size=3D2><span
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt'> </span></font><font size=3D2 color=3Dnavy =
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    <TD align=3Dright><FONT size=3D1><B>Company Code:</B></FONT></TD>
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for a=20
specific type of insurance. The complaint index may be used, along with =
other=20
information, as a comparison of the relative number of complaints =
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derived.</FONT>
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    <TH colSpan=3D2><FONT size=3D1>2002</FONT></TH>
    <TH colSpan=3D2><FONT size=3D1>2001</FONT></TH>
    <TH colSpan=3D2><FONT size=3D1>2000</FONT></TH></TR>
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    <TH vAlign=3Dtop><FONT size=3D1>Type of Coverage</FONT></TH>
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    <TH><FONT size=3D1>Total<BR>Complaints</FONT></TH>
    <TH><FONT size=3D1>Complaint<BR>Index</FONT></TH>
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    <TD><FONT size=3D1>Private Passenger Auto</FONT></TD>
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    <TD align=3Dright><FONT size=3D1>0.00</FONT></TD>
    <TD align=3Dright><FONT size=3D1>0</FONT></TD>
    <TD align=3Dright><FONT size=3D1>0.00</FONT></TD>
    <TD align=3Dright><FONT size=3D1>0</FONT></TD>
    <TD align=3Dright><FONT size=3D1>0.00</FONT></TD></TR>
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    <TD align=3Dright><FONT size=3D1>0</FONT></TD>
    <TD align=3Dright><FONT size=3D1>0.00</FONT></TD>
    <TD align=3Dright><FONT size=3D1>0</FONT></TD>
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    <TD align=3Dright><FONT size=3D1>5</FONT></TD>
    <TD align=3Dright><FONT size=3D1>12.59</FONT></TD>
    <TD align=3Dright><FONT size=3D1>4</FONT></TD>
    <TD align=3Dright><FONT size=3D1>7.66</FONT></TD></TR>
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    <TD align=3Dright><FONT size=3D1>79</FONT></TD>
    <TD align=3Dright><FONT size=3D1>4.90</FONT></TD>
    <TD align=3Dright><FONT size=3D1>56</FONT></TD>
    <TD align=3Dright><FONT size=3D1>7.06</FONT></TD>
    <TD align=3Dright><FONT size=3D1>46</FONT></TD>
    <TD align=3Dright><FONT =
size=3D1>5.78</FONT></TD></TR></TBODY></TABLE>
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/ Market=20
      Share</FONT></TD>
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greater than=20
      1.00 is worse)</FONT></TD></TR></TBODY></TABLE>
<P>
<HR width=3D"100%" noShade>
<FONT size=3D2><I>Financial</I></FONT>
<P></P>
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  <TR>
    <TH width=3D"28%"><FONT size=3D1>&nbsp;</FONT></TH>
    <TH width=3D"24%"><FONT size=3D1>12/31/2002</FONT></TH>
    <TH width=3D"24%"><FONT size=3D1>12/31/2001</FONT></TH>
    <TH width=3D"24%"><FONT size=3D1>12/31/2000</FONT></TH></TR>
  <TR>
    <TD><FONT size=3D1>Total Assets</FONT></TD>
    <TD align=3Dright><FONT size=3D1>2,654,513,232</FONT></TD>
    <TD align=3Dright><FONT size=3D1>2,644,199,614</FONT></TD>
    <TD align=3Dright><FONT size=3D1>2,317,600,270</FONT></TD></TR>
  <TR>
    <TD><FONT size=3D1>Total Surplus</FONT></TD>
    <TD align=3Dright><FONT size=3D1>129,132,131</FONT></TD>
    <TD align=3Dright><FONT size=3D1>147,832,937</FONT></TD>
    <TD align=3Dright><FONT size=3D1>194,625,316</FONT></TD></TR>
  <TR>
    <TD><FONT size=3D1>Total Premiums Written - Countrywide</FONT></TD>
    <TD align=3Dright><FONT size=3D1>447,739,980</FONT></TD>
    <TD align=3Dright><FONT size=3D1>0</FONT></TD>
    <TD align=3Dright><FONT size=3D1>490,239,265</FONT></TD></TR>
  <TR>
    <TD><FONT size=3D1>Total Premiums Written - Statewide</FONT></TD>
    <TD align=3Dright><FONT size=3D1>35,960,942</FONT></TD>
    <TD align=3Dright><FONT size=3D1>37,366,464</FONT></TD>
    <TD align=3Dright><FONT =
size=3D1>39,342,731</FONT></TD></TR></TBODY></TABLE><BR>
<DIV align=3Dcenter><B><A=20
href=3D"http://www.insurance.state.pa.us/csinfo/csnotes.htm">Notations =
and=20
Explanations</A></B></DIV>
<H3 align=3Dcenter>PENNSYLVANIA INSURANCE DEPARTMENT</H3>
<TABLE width=3D"100%" border=3D0>
  <TBODY>
  <TR>
    <TD width=3D"38%"><FONT size=3D2><B><I>Edward G. =
Rendell<BR>Governor<BR><A=20
      href=3D"http://www.state.pa.us/">Commonwealth of=20
      Pennsylvania</A></I></B></FONT></TD>
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