[LTPC-disc] Fw: Health Insurance

Mary Pillow Kirk mpillowkirk@earthlink.net
Tue, 27 May 2003 15:52:08 -0500


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Mary Pillow here. so far I have found that Blue Cross Blue Shield is =
less expensive thru Farm Bureau than on the open market. I don't know if =
there is a Farm Bureau in every state. All one has to do is pay $25 a =
year membership and I found that my policy was about $150. a month less!
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  From: THOMAS DURKIN=20
  To: ltpc-disc@ltpcalums.com=20
  Sent: Monday, May 26, 2003 8:17 AM
  Subject: Fw: [LTPC-disc] Fw: Health Insurance



  I don't know if all of you saw this message.
    ----- Original Message -----
    From: THOMAS DURKIN
    Sent: Saturday, May 24, 2003 9:43 AM
    To: Doug Burg
    Subject: Re: [LTPC-disc] Fw: Health Insurance

    I wanted to reply to two messages I've seen.

    Health Insurance:  The law is 18 months of COBRA, they are not going =
to offer 3 years.  There is no evidence of discrimination-the company =
virtually is closing its doors and eliminating the entire sales force, =
etc.

    Existing policyholders:  The contract is intended to stop agents who =
leave the company from working leads they take with them and trying to =
get existing policy holders to switch ltc policies.  You can service =
policyholders, even offer them other products, like prepaid funerals.  =
Since LTPC does not offer any products to existing policy holders =
anything other than ltci would not be a competitive product. =20

    Leads you have not sold are an interesting issue.  Who owns the =
names of the people that you are currently contacting but may not make a =
decision until after June 20?  LTPC does not have a sales force to sell =
insurance to these people and the affinity partners contract will end on =
June 20.  I would think that the affinity group would want you to =
follow-up to make them happy.  There was some talk that LTPC might sell =
you the leads after June 20. (This won't happen.  The affinity partnrs =
won't allow the names to be sold, especially if they think another group =
will eventually come to them and have a deal like the one they had with =
LTPC).   If that idea became reality it would prove you could work =
existing leads, or old leads as long as you wanted.  LTCA could not sell =
you these leads, they did not own them.  This week they were instructed =
to send all leads in a market to the agents.  The reason- LTPC would =
like sales on those leads by June 20, if there are no sales they know =
they will never see any revenue from them.

    Mark Durkin


      ----- Original Message -----
      From: Doug Burg
      Sent: Saturday, May 24, 2003 9:18 AM
      To: ltpc-disc@ltpcalums.com
      Subject: [LTPC-disc] Fw: Health Insurance


      ----- Original Message -----=20
      From: MrOnopa@aol.com=20
      To: doug@dougburg.com=20
      Sent: Friday, May 23, 2003 5:22 PM
      Subject: (no subject)


      Doug,=20
      It appears that most all of us will be paying more for health =
insurance, especially those over 55. Some may not even be able to obtain =
it.=20
      Cendant should allow us to stay on the existing plan at the same =
rate for up to three years. And if you are 60 or older, until you =
qualify for medicare.=20
      If you count the number of us over 55, a case could be made for =
some type of discrimination.=20
      Ron Onopa=20

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<DIV><FONT color=3D#ff0000 face=3DArial size=3D3>Mary Pillow here. so =
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  <A href=3D"mailto:mdurk123@msn.com" title=3Dmdurk123@msn.com>THOMAS =
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  title=3Dltpc-disc@ltpcalums.com>ltpc-disc@ltpcalums.com</A> </DIV>
  <DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Sent:</B> Monday, May 26, 2003 8:17 =
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  Insurance</DIV>
  <DIV><BR></DIV>
  <DIV>&nbsp;</DIV>
  <DIV>I don't know if all of you saw this message.</DIV>
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    THOMAS DURKIN</DIV>
    <DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt Arial"><B>Sent:</B> Saturday, May 24, 2003 =
9:43=20
    AM</DIV>
    <DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt Arial"><B>To:</B> Doug Burg</DIV>
    <DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt Arial"><B>Subject:</B> Re: [LTPC-disc] Fw: =
Health=20
    Insurance</DIV>
    <DIV>&nbsp;</DIV>
    <DIV>I wanted to reply to two messages I've seen.</DIV>
    <DIV>&nbsp;</DIV>
    <DIV>Health Insurance:&nbsp; The law is 18 months of COBRA, they are =
not=20
    going to offer 3 years.&nbsp; There is no evidence of =
discrimination-the=20
    company virtually is closing its doors and eliminating the entire =
sales=20
    force, etc.</DIV>
    <DIV>&nbsp;</DIV>
    <DIV>Existing policyholders:&nbsp; The contract is intended to stop =
agents=20
    who leave the company from working leads they take with them and =
trying to=20
    get existing policy holders to switch ltc policies.&nbsp; You can =
service=20
    policyholders, even offer them other products, like prepaid =
funerals.&nbsp;=20
    Since LTPC does not offer any products to existing policy holders =
anything=20
    other than ltci would not be a competitive product.&nbsp; </DIV>
    <DIV>&nbsp;</DIV>
    <DIV>Leads you have not sold are an interesting issue.&nbsp; Who =
owns the=20
    names of the people that you are currently contacting but may not =
make a=20
    decision until after June 20?&nbsp; LTPC does not have a sales force =
to sell=20
    insurance to these people and the affinity partners contract will =
end on=20
    June 20.&nbsp; I would think that the affinity group would want you =
to=20
    follow-up to make them happy.&nbsp; There was some talk that LTPC =
might sell=20
    you the leads after June 20.&nbsp;(This won't happen.&nbsp; The =
affinity=20
    partnrs won't allow the names to be sold, especially if they think =
another=20
    group will&nbsp;eventually come to them and have a deal like the one =
they=20
    had with LTPC).&nbsp; &nbsp;If that idea became reality it would =
prove you=20
    could work existing leads, or old leads as long as you wanted.&nbsp; =
LTCA=20
    could not sell you these leads, they did not own them.&nbsp; This =
week they=20
    were instructed to send all leads in a market to the agents.&nbsp; =
The=20
    reason- LTPC would like sales on those leads by June 20, if there =
are no=20
    sales they know they will never see any revenue from them.</DIV>
    <DIV>&nbsp;</DIV>
    <DIV>Mark Durkin</DIV>
    <DIV>&nbsp;</DIV>
    <DIV>&nbsp;</DIV>
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      Doug Burg</DIV>
      <DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt Arial"><B>Sent:</B> Saturday, May 24, =
2003 9:18=20
      AM</DIV>
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ltpc-disc@ltpcalums.com</DIV>
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Health=20
      Insurance</DIV>
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      <DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt arial">----- Original Message -----=20
      <DIV style=3D"BACKGROUND: #e4e4e4; font-color: black"><B>From:</B> =
<A=20
      href=3D"mailto:MrOnopa@aol.com" =
title=3DMrOnopa@aol.com>MrOnopa@aol.com</A>=20
      </DIV>
      <DIV><B>To:</B> <A href=3D"mailto:doug@dougburg.com"=20
      title=3Ddoug@dougburg.com>doug@dougburg.com</A> </DIV>
      <DIV><B>Sent:</B> Friday, May 23, 2003 5:22 PM</DIV>
      <DIV><B>Subject:</B> (no subject)</DIV></DIV>
      <DIV><BR></DIV><FONT face=3Darial,helvetica><FONT size=3D2>Doug, =
<BR>It=20
      appears that most all of us will be paying more for health =
insurance,=20
      especially those over 55. Some may not even be able to obtain it.=20
      <BR>Cendant should allow us to stay on the existing plan at the =
same rate=20
      for up to three years. And if you are 60 or older, until you =
qualify for=20
      medicare. <BR>If you count the number of us over 55, a case could =
be made=20
      for some type of discrimination. <BR>Ron Onopa</FONT>=20
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