[LTPC-disc] Fw: X-LTPCers Issues (message from Deb McCarthy)

Doug Burg Doug Burg <doug.burg@wdn.com>
Wed, 28 May 2003 00:44:45 -0400


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----- Original Message -----=20
From: Jon Christopher=20
To: Marcus, Bud ; Gregory, Judy ; Anderson, John ; Anderson, Tom ; =
Backus, David ; Bardonaro, Gus ; Bauer, Gerald ; Bauer, Jerry ; Bitter, =
Ryan ; Black, Jay ; Blaha, Steve ; Boraas, Bruce ; Boyd, Sarah ; Bradle, =
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Christopher, Jon ; Clymer, Ric ; Cohen, Marcia ; Conner, Andy ; Cotter, =
Ed ; Dexter, Marcus ; Drzewiecki, Tom ; Dunn, Michael ; Durkin, Mark ; =
Edwards II, Lyle ; Everton, Scott ; Faber, Shelley ; Findling, Mike ; =
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Goostree, Doug ; Greenberg, Dru ; Hadidian, Robert ; Hallmark, Paul ; =
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Winckler, Mark ; Meyers, Eric=20
Sent: Tuesday, May 27, 2003 5:38 PM
Subject: Fw: X-LTPCers Issues (message from Deb McCarthy)


Hello X-LTPC'ers,

Here's a great message that came today from Deb McCarthy.  Thanks for =
your input Deb!

Jon Christopher
jondc@xmission.com
(801)544-5988



----- Original Message -----=20
From: Deb McCarthy=20
To: Jon Christopher=20
Sent: Tuesday, May 27, 2003 2:49 PM
Subject: X-LTPCers Issues


Hi Jon,=20

Welcome back .... I also chilled for a few days over the weekend.   I =
have seen much info from many of our counter-parts encouraging =
professionalism and legal action.

I stated my position last week when I said it would behove us all to =
wait for the official position which they have promised to have out by =
Tues or Wednesday of this week before we start any action.  I believe it =
is reasonable to wait a day or two for the official stance since we will =
then be in a better position to address issues.=20

I did have a second conversation with Danny Nelms, In-Humane Resources =
today.  He indicated that yes they were going to continue our pay as =
much as normal as possible (what ever that means) and no they still felt =
that we were to great a liability to service or deliver our policies =
after the 6/20 date.  I have seen other emails asking why the Insurance =
Depts would be concerned with our plight.  Basically they are not that =
concerned on behalf of the agents, but they do have major concerns when =
it comes to servicing policyholders.  Their role after all is to protect =
the consumers primarily.  I have asked Danny to address this issue very =
specifically in the meeting that he had scheduled today and to bear in =
mind, regarding liability, that LTPC had E & O insurance which protects =
us and them from time of sale through claim or cancellation, therefore =
any liability that we they perceive we pose is minimal.=20

In regards to communicating with either the State Insurance Department =
or the Department of Labor, one should keep copies of all correspondence =
and forward it as appropriate to the State of Tenn Insurance Department =
as well as the State of Tenn Department of Labor.  However, until we =
have an official written position from Progeny I do not believe we can =
prepare a profession position based on fact not rumor. =20

I have seen many good ideas and suggestions, some more dramatic as =
others and I assure all that I share their concerns.  However, I always =
believe that we accomplish more success in negotiating by selecting the =
top two or three issues and pursuing those collectively.  I'm not sure =
that we are at that point yet.  Additionally, I firmly believe that =
formal litigation will tie all of our money and hands up for many =
years.....so we may want to exercise caution in using this as a threat =
of action.

Again, welcome back and good job to both you and Doug for you =
coordinated efforts and deligence communication.

Deb McCarthy
dmccarth@bellsouth.net
407 568 5872=

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title=loreleifrank@hotmail.com href="mailto:loreleifrank@hotmail.com">Frank, 
Lorelei</A> ; <A title=fritzltc@ptdprolog.net 
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title=mgable@bigfoot.com href="mailto:mgable@bigfoot.com">Gable, Michael</A> ; 
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; <A title=joel@cybernex.net href="mailto:joel@cybernex.net">Goldin, Joel</A> ; 
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; <A title=sandyhaldeman@msn.com href="mailto:sandyhaldeman@msn.com">Haldeman, 
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David</A> ; <A title=khanner@triad.rr.com 
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Todd</A> ; <A title=hemmel6623@novagate.com 
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Donna</A> ; <A title=mhersh8@yahoo.com href="mailto:mhersh8@yahoo.com">Hersh, 
Michael</A> ; <A title=cnhig@aol.com href="mailto:cnhig@aol.com">Higgins, 
Charles</A> ; <A title=joehughes@bellsouth.net 
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title=deejacobson1@aol.com href="mailto:deejacobson1@aol.com">Jacobson, Dee</A> 
; <A title=cindyjonesltc@cs.com href="mailto:cindyjonesltc@cs.com">Jones, 
Cynthia</A> ; <A title=jjones14@satx.rr.com 
href="mailto:jjones14@satx.rr.com">Jones, Jack</A> ; <A 
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Philip</A> ; <A title=jrk.05@ispwest.com 
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title=dwightltpc@yahoo.com href="mailto:dwightltpc@yahoo.com">Kieser, Dwight</A> 
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Edward</A> ; <A title=azsold@aol.com href="mailto:azsold@aol.com">Kropp, 
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Edward</A> ; <A title=lmcclenning@cfl.rr.com 
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title=bmcgov@adelphia.net href="mailto:bmcgov@adelphia.net">McGovern, 
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Robert</A> ; <A title=marrickina@msn.com 
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<DIV><B>Sent:</B> Tuesday, May 27, 2003 5:38 PM</DIV>
<DIV><B>Subject:</B> Fw: X-LTPCers Issues (message from Deb 
McCarthy)</DIV></DIV>
<DIV><BR></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>Hello X-LTPC'ers,</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>Here's a great message that came today from Deb 
McCarthy.&nbsp; Thanks for your input Deb!</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>Jon Christopher<BR><A 
href="mailto:jondc@xmission.com">jondc@xmission.com</A><BR>(801)544-5988</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial">----- Original Message ----- 
<DIV style="BACKGROUND: #e4e4e4; font-color: black"><B>From:</B> <A 
title=dmccarth@bellsouth.net href="mailto:dmccarth@bellsouth.net">Deb 
McCarthy</A> </DIV>
<DIV><B>To:</B> <A title=jondc@xmission.com href="mailto:jondc@xmission.com">Jon 
Christopher</A> </DIV>
<DIV><B>Sent:</B> Tuesday, May 27, 2003 2:49 PM</DIV>
<DIV><B>Subject:</B> X-LTPCers Issues</DIV></DIV>
<DIV><BR></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>Hi Jon, </FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>Welcome back .... I also chilled for a few days 
over the weekend.&nbsp;&nbsp; I have seen much info from many of our 
counter-parts encouraging professionalism and legal action.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>I stated my position last week when I said it would 
behove us all to wait for the official position which they have promised to have 
out by Tues or Wednesday of this week before we start any action.&nbsp; I 
believe it is reasonable to wait a day or two for the official stance since we 
will then be in a better position to address issues. </FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>I did have a second conversation with Danny Nelms, 
In-Humane Resources today.&nbsp; He indicated that yes they were going to 
continue our pay as much as normal as possible (what ever that means) and no 
they still felt that we were to great a liability to service or deliver our 
policies after the 6/20 date.&nbsp; I have seen other emails asking why the 
Insurance Depts would be concerned with our plight.&nbsp; Basically they are not 
that concerned on behalf of the agents, but they do have major concerns when it 
comes to servicing policyholders.&nbsp; Their role after all is to protect the 
consumers primarily.&nbsp; I have asked Danny to address this issue very 
specifically in the meeting that he had scheduled today and to bear in mind, 
regarding liability, that LTPC had E &amp; O insurance which protects us and 
them from time of sale through claim or cancellation, therefore any liability 
that we they perceive we pose is minimal. </FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>In regards to communicating with either the State 
Insurance Department or the Department of Labor, one should keep copies of all 
correspondence and forward it as appropriate to the State of Tenn Insurance 
Department as well as the State of Tenn Department of Labor.&nbsp; However, 
until we have an official written position from Progeny I do not believe we can 
prepare a profession position based on fact not rumor.&nbsp; </FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>I have seen many good ideas and suggestions, some 
more dramatic as others and I assure all that I share their concerns.&nbsp; 
However, I always believe that we accomplish more success in negotiating by 
selecting the top two or three issues and pursuing those collectively.&nbsp; I'm 
not sure that we are at that point yet.&nbsp; Additionally, I firmly believe 
that formal litigation will tie all of our money and hands up for many 
years.....so we may want to exercise caution in using this as a threat of 
action.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>Again, welcome back and good job to both you and 
Doug for you coordinated efforts and deligence communication.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>Deb McCarthy</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2><A 
href="mailto:dmccarth@bellsouth.net">dmccarth@bellsouth.net</A></FONT></DIV>
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