Fw: [LTPC-disc] Fw: Policy notitication issue
Doug Burg
Doug Burg <doug@dougburg.com>
Sun, 01 Jun 2003 11:34:44 -0400
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FORWARDED FROM WILLIAM C. WALTERS (please reply to him, not me):
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From: William C. Walters=20
To: Doug Burg=20
Sent: Saturday, May 31, 2003 6:27 PM
Subject: RE: [LTPC-disc] Fw: Policy notitication issue
To act or not to act, that is the question.
Points of view.
1. One point of view is that, Cendant criminally screwed us, but it is a =
done deal, and that it would be too costly in terms of money, time and =
mental health to pursue some type of recompense. We would be dollars =
ahead and less stressed out if we would forget it and put the unsavory =
experience behind us and get on with our lives.=20
2. Another point of view is that, Cendant criminally screwed us by =
misrepresenting; * The earning potential and the effort that it would =
take to achieve that potential with the 15-10-5 formula. * Cheating =
non-vested agents out of their renewals * Denying all agents the right =
to follow-up, service and resell new products to their clients. * That =
the President Robert Foreman misled to us to the very end, ala Enron, =
American Airlines and the Minister of Information in Iraq. In the case =
of Enron and American Airlines they lied to their employees and =
stockholders up to the very end so that the few on top could profit by =
criminally squeezing the last dollar out of the many. In the case of =
the Minister of Information in Iraq, he lied up to the very last to =
squeeze the last drop of blood out of the many to benefit the few on =
top. Apparently this type of behavior is a core belief of the corporate =
culture and Cendant is right in step with this belief. If Cendant is as =
ruthless in dealing with their employees as Enron, American Airlines and =
Sadam, I wonder if Cendant could stand the heat of an objective audit of =
their accounting practices. =20
We can bleat BA, BA like sheep being lead to the slaughter or we can =
unite with one voice and at the very least let the stockholders of =
Cendant know the type of Corporation that they have invested in. Each of =
us will have decide whether or not to unite and join together to seek =
some type of recompense and justice for this ruthless treatment while =
those who are guilty of ruthlessly treating us this way profit from our =
misfortune. =20
It is interesting to note that Cendant required its agents to take a =
course called, "Integrity Selling". Integrity is not a word that you =
should put before selling; it is something you should already have =
before you submit your resume. Integrity is a quality that you should =
have before the fact and not have to add after that fact. The course =
could have been titled "Integrated Selling". There should have been a =
course that all corporate executives should be required to take called =
"Integrity Management".
What are grievances?
1. Cheating non-vested agents who were fired out of their renewals, by =
denying them the opportunity to become vested.
2. Denying all agents the right to follow-up, service and resell new =
products to their clients,
3. Progeny, misrepresented the agent's earning potential by claiming =
that 15-10-5 would be accomplished by making 150 dials per week from =
LTPC leads producing a minimum annual income of $25,000. "Core belief =
#5 in Progengy's official training manual, pages 5 and 9, state that; "I =
must set 15 appointments every week to make 10 qualified presentations =
and write a minimum of 5 applications" Page 2, of Day 2, explains by way =
of a chart that 150 dials per week will result in 15-10-5. If an =
objective study was made of all of the agents in the U.S. I am certain =
that this claim would be false and few if any agents consistently =
achieved that level of performance.
4. Misrepresenting the quality of the leads, which resulted in the agent =
becoming a kissing cousin to a telemarketer.
I will leave others to complete the list of grievances.
I am not a sheep and I willingly add my voice to those who want these =
wrongs to be redressed. To those who do not want to be bothered or who =
are fearful of becoming involved, I ask them if this is their general =
view toward justice and the exploitation of the many by the corporate =
greedy. Or is your inaction caused by fear, which is the means by which =
the many are ruled by the ruthless few. Thomas Jefferson warned us =
that, "Politicians are like wolves, if we do not keep them in check =
they will devour us." The same can be said of corporations.
William C. Walters
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From: ltpc-disc-admin@ltpcalums.com =
[mailto:ltpc-disc-admin@ltpcalums.com]On Behalf Of Doug Burg
Sent: Saturday, May 31, 2003 11:34 AM
To: ltpc-disc@ltpcalums.com
Cc: Tom McAuliffe
Subject: Fw: [LTPC-disc] Fw: Policy notitication issue
FORWARDED:
----- Original Message -----=20
From: BillPeggy@aol.com=20
To: doug@dougburg.com=20
Sent: Saturday, May 31, 2003 10:48 AM
Subject: Re: [LTPC-disc] Fw: Policy notitication issue
Tom...how did you go about getting these addresses changed to your =
home address and who did you work with at each carrier....Thank you... =
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<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>FORWARDED FROM WILLIAM C. WALTERS =
(please reply to=20
him, not me):</FONT></DIV>
<DIV> </DIV>
<DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt arial">----- Original Message -----=20
<DIV style=3D"BACKGROUND: #e4e4e4; font-color: black"><B>From:</B> <A=20
title=3Dwilliamwalters@verizon.net=20
href=3D"mailto:williamwalters@verizon.net">William C. Walters</A> </DIV>
<DIV><B>To:</B> <A title=3Ddoug@dougburg.com =
href=3D"mailto:doug@dougburg.com">Doug=20
Burg</A> </DIV>
<DIV><B>Sent:</B> Saturday, May 31, 2003 6:27 PM</DIV>
<DIV><B>Subject:</B> RE: [LTPC-disc] Fw: Policy notitication =
issue</DIV></DIV>
<DIV><BR></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial color=3D#0000ff size=3D2>To act or not to act, =
that is the=20
question.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial color=3D#0000ff size=3D2></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial color=3D#0000ff size=3D2>Points of =
view.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial color=3D#0000ff size=3D2>1. One point of view is =
that, Cendant=20
criminally screwed us, but it is a done deal, and that it would be too =
costly in=20
terms of money, time and mental health to pursue some type of =
recompense. =20
We would be dollars ahead and less stressed out if we would forget it =
and put=20
the unsavory experience behind us and get on with our lives. <BR>2. =
Another=20
point of view is that, Cendant criminally screwed us by misrepresenting; =
* The=20
earning potential and the effort that it would take to achieve that =
potential=20
with the 15-10-5 formula. * Cheating non-vested agents out of their =
renewals *=20
Denying all agents the right to follow-up, service and resell new =
products to=20
their clients. * That the President Robert Foreman <SPAN=20
class=3D110361422-31052003>misled</SPAN> to us to the very end, ala =
Enron,=20
American Airlines and the Minister of Information in Iraq. In the =
case of=20
Enron and American Airlines they lied to their employees and =
stockholders up to=20
the very end so that the few on top could profit by criminally squeezing =
the=20
last dollar out of the many. In the case of the Minister of =
Information in=20
Iraq, he lied up to the very last to squeeze the last drop of blood out =
of the=20
many to benefit the few on top. Apparently this type of behavior =
is a core=20
belief of the corporate culture and Cendant is right in step with this=20
belief. If Cendant is as ruthless in dealing with their employees =
as=20
Enron, American Airlines and Sadam, I wonder if Cendant could stand the =
heat of=20
an objective audit of their accounting practices. </FONT></DIV>
<DIV> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial color=3D#0000ff size=3D2>We can bleat BA, BA =
like sheep being=20
lead to the slaughter or we can unite with one voice and at the very =
least let=20
the stockholders of Cendant know the type of Corporation that =
they <SPAN=20
class=3D110361422-31052003>have </SPAN>invested in. Each of us will have =
decide=20
whether or not to unite and join together to seek some type of =
recompense and=20
justice for this ruthless treatment while those who are guilty of =
ruthlessly=20
treating us this way profit from our misfortune. </FONT></DIV>
<DIV> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial color=3D#0000ff size=3D2>It is interesting to =
note that=20
Cendant required its agents to take a course called, =93Integrity =
Selling=94. =20
Integrity is not a word that you should put before selling; it is =
something you=20
should already have before you submit your resume. Integrity is a =
quality=20
that you should have before the fact and not have to add after that =
fact. =20
The course could have been titled =93Integrated Selling=94. There =
should have=20
been a course that all corporate executives should be required to take =
called=20
=93Integrity Management=94.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV> </DIV><FONT face=3DArial color=3D#0000ff size=3D2>
<DIV><BR>What are grievances?</DIV>
<DIV> </DIV>
<DIV>1. Cheating non-vested agents who were fired out of their renewals, =
by=20
denying them the opportunity to become vested.<BR>2. Denying all agents =
the=20
right to follow-up, service and resell new products to their =
clients,<BR>3.=20
Progeny, misrepresented the agent=92s earning potential by claiming that =
15-10-5=20
would be accomplished by making 150 dials per week from LTPC leads =
producing a=20
minimum annual income of $25,000. =93Core belief #5 in =
Progengy=92s official=20
training manual, pages 5 and 9, state that; =93I must set 15 =
appointments every=20
week to make 10 qualified presentations and write a minimum of 5 =
applications=94=20
Page 2, of Day 2, explains by way of a chart that 150 dials per week =
will result=20
in 15-10-5. If an objective study was made of all of the agents in the =
U.S. I am=20
certain that this claim would be false and few if any agents =
consistently=20
achieved that level of performance.<BR>4. Misrepresenting the quality of =
the=20
leads, which resulted in the agent becoming a kissing cousin to a=20
telemarketer.</DIV>
<DIV> </DIV>
<DIV>I will leave others to complete the list of grievances.</DIV>
<DIV> </DIV>
<DIV>I am not a sheep and I willingly add my voice to those who want =
these=20
wrongs to be redressed. To those who do not want to be =
bothered or=20
who are fearful of becoming involved, I ask them if this is their =
general view=20
toward justice and the exploitation of the many by the corporate greedy. =
Or is=20
your inaction caused by fear, which is the means by which the many are =
ruled by=20
the ruthless few. Thomas Jefferson warned us that, =
=93Politicians are=20
like wolves, if we do not keep them in check they will devour =
us.=94 The=20
same can be said of corporations.</DIV>
<DIV> </DIV>
<DIV>William C. Walters<BR></FONT></DIV>
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size=3D2>-----Original Message-----<BR><B>From:</B>=20
ltpc-disc-admin@ltpcalums.com =
[mailto:ltpc-disc-admin@ltpcalums.com]<B>On=20
Behalf Of</B> Doug Burg<BR><B>Sent:</B> Saturday, May 31, 2003 11:34=20
AM<BR><B>To:</B> ltpc-disc@ltpcalums.com<BR><B>Cc:</B> Tom=20
McAuliffe<BR><B>Subject:</B> Fw: [LTPC-disc] Fw: Policy notitication=20
issue<BR><BR></FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>FORWARDED:</FONT></DIV>
<DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt arial">----- Original Message -----=20
<DIV style=3D"BACKGROUND: #e4e4e4; font-color: black"><B>From:</B> <A=20
title=3DBillPeggy@aol.com =
href=3D"mailto:BillPeggy@aol.com">BillPeggy@aol.com</A>=20
</DIV>
<DIV><B>To:</B> <A title=3Ddoug@dougburg.com=20
href=3D"mailto:doug@dougburg.com">doug@dougburg.com</A> </DIV>
<DIV><B>Sent:</B> Saturday, May 31, 2003 10:48 AM</DIV>
<DIV><B>Subject:</B> Re: [LTPC-disc] Fw: Policy notitication =
issue</DIV></DIV>
<DIV><BR></DIV><FONT face=3Darial,helvetica><FONT lang=3D0 =
face=3DArial size=3D2=20
FAMILY=3D"SANSSERIF">Tom...how did you go about getting these =
addresses changed=20
to your home address and who did you work with at each =
carrier....Thank=20
you...</FONT> </FONT></BLOCKQUOTE></BODY></HTML>
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