[LTPC-discussions] What this is really about!

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Thu, 19 Jun 2003 11:07:52 EDT


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To all LTPC Alums:  Agents, Home Office Staff, Management, all of you.  
Because this affects all of you.

I have watched the postings on here and I decided to spell it out to all of 
you what we are really talking about.  So take a few moments and read this.  

There is one main issue here.  It is not the fact the a company wants to shut 
down and close its doors.  I owned businesses and sold them and closed them 
over the years.  If the company was losing money and needed to close its doors 
I can understand that.  If it needed to be sold off I can understand that too.

The issue here that affects all our lives is;

1.  Was this decision to close LTPC made recently like they want us to 
believe, or was this decided back in the summer last year?  

2.  Did we keep working toward a goal, a future with LTPC without the 
knowledge that it was going to close?

3.  Were there agents, management, home office staff that knew that we were 
going to close almost a year ago, and because they had this knowledge were able 
to plan their future?  A lot of very good agents left after the summer or 
were aware and were able to plan.

4.  At the conference last year agents gave speeches of how great the company 
was but after the summer they were gone.  Did they know or were some people 
privy to information of the closing of LTPC and were able to plan their future 
and leave that we did not have?

5.  Why expand the company over the last two years and bring in hundreds of 
agents and then pull the plug after telling us what a great future we have 
ahead of us before we get vested?

6.  Agents that were vested would you have stayed with the company if you 
knew it was going to close?  Would you have left early?

7.  Agents hired after the summer never had a chance.  What were they working 
for if they could never have been able to get vested?

8.  Agents were hired after January and were trained locally because they 
were terminating the training staff?  Those new hires had their time wasted and 
could have been working for another company?  Why were they hired?  Maybe to 
give the impression that everything was OK?

9.  Was LTPC really trying to find a buyer?  Did they hire a firm to evaluate 
the company and to seek buyers?

10.  Why couldn't they just change our contracts and turn everyone into 1099 
employees, eliminate training staff, eliminate managers and become a brokerage 
like LTCR or LTCA, keep the affinity groups and pay us a higher commission?  
Was this ever an option?

These are some of the issues that are important.  This is not about a company 
closing.  Was there a decision to close the company last summer and at the 
same time hire new agents, and have us believe that things were normal and 
everything was fine?  

Think!  Did you have any conversations with agents or support staff about 
LTPC closing?  Did you hear rumors about LTPC closing?  Do you think you were 
mislead by LTPC?  Write down this information.  Make notes of who you spoke with 
and when.  

I repeat this is not an issue about a company closing.  This is about if 
there was a decision to close down last summer and mislead us.  To close down 
before this large group of agents became vested.  

Would like to hear your thoughts on this.

I wrote this because I see that some have lost site of the issues and that is 
not good.  I have moved on, do not spend more that ten, fifteen minutes a day 
on this at the most.  I have work to do and appointments to keep, but I am 
starting over and learned now that anything I write is vested on day one.

Richard Moore

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=3D"Arial" LANG=3D"0"><B>To all LTPC Alums:&nbsp; Agents, Home Office Staff,=
 Management, all of you.&nbsp; Because this affects all of you.<BR>
<BR>
I have watched the postings on here and I decided to spell it out to all of=20=
you what we are really talking about.&nbsp; So take a few moments and read t=
his.&nbsp; <BR>
<BR>
There is one main issue here.&nbsp; It is not the fact the a company wants t=
o shut down and close its doors.&nbsp; I owned businesses and sold them and=20=
closed them over the years.&nbsp; If the company was losing money and needed=
 to close its doors I can understand that.&nbsp; If it needed to be sold off=
 I can understand that too.<BR>
<BR>
The issue here that affects all our lives is;<BR>
<BR>
1.&nbsp; Was this decision to close LTPC made recently like they want us to=20=
believe, or was this decided back in the summer last year?&nbsp; <BR>
<BR>
2.&nbsp; Did we keep working toward a goal, a future with LTPC without the k=
nowledge that it was going to close?<BR>
<BR>
3.&nbsp; Were there agents, management, home office staff that knew that we=20=
were going to close almost a year ago, and because they had this knowledge w=
ere able to plan their future?&nbsp; A lot of very good agents left after th=
e summer or were aware and were able to plan.<BR>
<BR>
4.&nbsp; At the conference last year agents gave speeches of how great the c=
ompany was but after the summer they were gone.&nbsp; Did they know or were=20=
some people privy to information of the closing of LTPC and were able to pla=
n their future and leave that we did not have?<BR>
<BR>
5.&nbsp; Why expand the company over the last two years and bring in hundred=
s of agents and then pull the plug after telling us what a great future we h=
ave ahead of us before we get vested?<BR>
<BR>
6.&nbsp; Agents that were vested would you have stayed with the company if y=
ou knew it was going to close?&nbsp; Would you have left early?<BR>
<BR>
7.&nbsp; Agents hired after the summer never had a chance.&nbsp; What were t=
hey working for if they could never have been able to get vested?<BR>
<BR>
8.&nbsp; Agents were hired after January and were trained locally because th=
ey were terminating the training staff?&nbsp; Those new hires had their time=
 wasted and could have been working for another company?&nbsp; Why were they=
 hired?&nbsp; Maybe to give the impression that everything was OK?<BR>
<BR>
9.&nbsp; Was LTPC really trying to find a buyer?&nbsp; Did they hire a firm=20=
to evaluate the company and to seek buyers?<BR>
<BR>
10.&nbsp; Why couldn't they just change our contracts and turn everyone into=
 1099 employees, eliminate training staff, eliminate managers and become a b=
rokerage like LTCR or LTCA, keep the affinity groups and pay us a higher com=
mission?&nbsp; Was this ever an option?<BR>
<BR>
These are some of the issues that are important.&nbsp; This is not about a c=
ompany closing.&nbsp; Was there a decision to close the company last summer=20=
and at the same time hire new agents, and have us believe that things were n=
ormal and everything was fine?&nbsp; <BR>
<BR>
Think!&nbsp; Did you have any conversations with agents or support staff abo=
ut LTPC closing?&nbsp; Did you hear rumors about LTPC closing?&nbsp; Do you=20=
think you were mislead by LTPC?&nbsp; Write down this information.&nbsp; Mak=
e notes of who you spoke with and when.&nbsp; <BR>
<BR>
I repeat this is not an issue about a company closing.&nbsp; This is about i=
f there was a decision to close down last summer and mislead us.&nbsp; To cl=
ose down before this large group of agents became vested.&nbsp; <BR>
<BR>
Would like to hear your thoughts on this.<BR>
<BR>
I wrote this because I see that some have lost site of the issues and that i=
s not good.&nbsp; I have moved on, do not spend more that ten, fifteen minut=
es a day on this at the most.&nbsp; I have work to do and appointments to ke=
ep, but I am starting over and learned now that anything I write is vested o=
n day one.<BR>
<BR>
Richard Moore</B></FONT></HTML>

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