[LTPC-discussions] please remove me from your mailing list
JEFF CANNELL
ltpc-disc@ltpcalums.com
Tue, 1 Jul 2003 23:25:46 -0400
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Hey Lisa,
Backbone, backbone, backbone. Where art thou backbone. Said the =
whitefish to the other whitefish.
To put it very bluntly, some people will always smile when they are =
getting screwed.
I'm glad you are only speaking for yourself. Tell it to the other people =
that put much more time into LTPC and lost much more money than you and =
I did combined.
That's it Lisa, turn the other cheek. You only have one more to get =
slapped or is it three. Your points are ludicrous to me. You are right =
only about one thing. It's time to end this dialogue and move on to the =
next phase, to litigate or not to litigate. My hat is off to Richard =
Moore who's done some good work in moving this along to the next phase.=20
Do not to reply back as I feel further discussion should only be about =
next steps and they should not be discussed in an open forum like this. =
Besides your point of view has already been stated.SLAP, SLAP
Jeff
----- Original Message -----=20
From: Joel=20
To: ltpc-disc@ltpcalums.com=20
Sent: Tuesday, July 01, 2003 10:34 PM
Subject: [LTPC-discussions] please remove me from your mailing list
----- Original Message -----=20
From: William C. Walters=20
To: ltpc-disc@ltpcalums.com=20
Sent: Tuesday, July 01, 2003 7:49 PM
Subject: RE: [LTPC-discussions] LTPC Comment Out of Context
A A Men, in context. I too have read "Who Moved My Cheese" and this =
excellent little book has a wonderful message. The message that I got =
from the book was; when disaster strikes in your life and your life's =
plans have been destroyed, it is pointless and personally destructive to =
moan and groan about how unfair fate has been to you. It is pointless =
and personally destructive to be paralyzed by the experience and do =
nothing but whine about an apparently bad turn in the road. You should =
unattached yourself from the negative experience emotionally and start =
exploring the many new and better opportunities that are open to you if =
you will just get off your duff, quit whining and look.
I agree with that thought in context. However the message was not =
meant to encourage you to renounce your obligation to seek justice when =
wronged while you are getting on with your life and looking for new and =
better cheese. =20
If we look at the world today and look back upon world history we =
find that people who have been the victims of horrendous crimes did go =
about creating a new life but they still pursued the purportrators of =
their suffering and brought them to justice. Two examples are 1. The =
Holocaust (Nurenburg Trails) and 2. Bosnia (The Hague trail of Slobadon =
Malosivich).
It is a very simplistic approach to apply the message of this fine =
little book to all of life's situations and specifically to our effort =
to seek justice from Cendant. To do so would encourage the abandonment =
of our justice system and courts. Receiving justice helps people by =
compensating them for the wrongs they have suffered, helps them to get =
on with their life and look in new directions for new opportunities.
It is na=EFve and simplistic to take a very practical philosophy =
such as found in "Who Moved My Cheese" and turn it into a clich=E9 in an =
attempt to apply it to all of life's situations.=20
Bill Walters
From: ltpc-disc-admin@ltpcalums.com =
[mailto:ltpc-disc-admin@ltpcalums.com]On Behalf Of Bob Hadidian
Sent: Tuesday, July 01, 2003 5:24 PM
To: ltpc-disc@ltpcalums.com
Subject: Re: [LTPC-discussions] LTPC Comment
Can I hear an AMEN brothers and sisters?
----- Original Message -----=20
From: LesaMelchor01@aol.com=20
To: ltpc-disc@ltpcalums.com=20
Sent: Tuesday, July 01, 2003 2:17 PM
Subject: [LTPC-discussions] LTPC Comment
Colleagues,
My name is Lesa Melchor from Orlando, Florida, and was with LTPC =
as an agent since last August. I've not responded to the barrage of =
emails I've gotten since the inception of this, often times, wonderful =
tool because I've just sat back and absorbed the aftermath of the events =
of late rather than taking a proactive stance. I've read many of the =
emails and some I've had to delete as I've not had time to keep up. As =
I've reflected on the emails I have read, one thing keeps coming to =
mind.
Has ANYONE read "WHO MOVED MY CHEESE," by Spenser Johnson? It's =
a great little 45 minute read where 4 mice, representing the 4 basic =
ways that people handle change, are outlined. Their responses to change =
obviously vary, from the one mouse that refuses to "MOVE ON" by trying =
to revive a dead horse, to the other mouse that continually tries to =
"require justice for being slighted" to the other mouse who gets wind of =
change, points his nose in a new direction and charges forward, to the =
mouse who whines and complains about everything that was done wrong to =
him until he finally realizes HE ALONE is responsible for the direction =
in his own life. Reading much of these emails reminds me of those 4 =
mice. =20
I'm sure my comments aren't going to be the most popular on the =
block, but hey, I'm a saleswoman, a risk taker, and I don't mind being =
bold and forthright with my 'two cents'. You can just delete me if you =
don't like what I have to say!!! Hey, my kids do!!!! haha
I've listened to people complain about issues from their 'leads' =
weren't derived from the proper sources, telemarketers at best, to =
having Monday morning quarterback analysis of the intentions of =
management, to wishing they had a crystal ball that would have told them =
not to start with this company in the first place. What I find most =
interesting is we along have the choice to make something of what was =
given to us or we don't---but alot of folks rather live in denial =
instead of taking responsibility for their own actions, sans me some of =
the time. I got the same leads everyone else got, some were good, some =
weren't. I worked the ones that were, made a lot of money and filed 13 =
the once that weren't...what's the big deal???? When I got myself on =
the phones daily for my 3-4 hours, and stuck with it, I MADE my 15/10/5. =
To be honest with you, the ratio was much higher. I've worked for =
sales companies where all I was given was a phonebook, a pair of high =
heeled shoes and the pavement so I was grateful for any lead at all.=20
I can't control the motives of corporate officials, and I've =
learned along time ago that although I can't control the outcome, I damn =
sure can control my response! I have the ability to make decisions and =
make choices that are good for me and mine, sans, this situation. The =
best salesperson, from my experience in sales and in management, never =
gets 'hung up' in excuses, they just look for the target, walk through =
fire and do what no one else will do to get where they need to get. =
Those who stop to smell the wreckage are only hindered by their own =
thinking.
Sure, I might not have liked how certain officials handled =
themselves, or how certain events played out, but in the scheme of life, =
is this really a deal breaker?????? Do we really have all the behind =
the scenes facts to make accurate statements? NO, we don't. And I for =
one am too busy in my life to worry about it. At the end of the day, =
folks, this ship has sunk and we NEED NEW CHEESE!!!!!! =20
Please don't get me wrong, I know there were people hired in the =
4th quarter of this game, and I didn't like it either, but are you going =
to look at this glass half empty or half full? Take from life the =
experiences that it gives you, step up to the plate and swing---and =
don't strike out lookin'!!!!!!!! Sometimes you win, sometimes you =
lose---it's definitely how you respond that makes you grow!!! This =
isn't the first time you've probably had to start over, and I'm quite =
sure it won't be the last....so smile, put on a good attitude, accept =
nothing but the best from yourself and MOVE FORWARD!!!!!!!
Colleagues, I exhort you to follow what makes you happy, what =
gives you peace and what provides for your family. Because, in the end, =
baring a relationship with God Himself, that's the only thing that =
really matters!
God Bless,
Lesa Melchor
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<DIV>Hey Lisa,</DIV>
<DIV>Backbone, backbone, backbone. Where art thou backbone. Said the =
whitefish=20
to the other whitefish.</DIV>
<DIV>To put it very bluntly, some people will always smile when they are =
getting=20
screwed.</DIV>
<DIV>I'm glad you are only speaking for yourself. Tell it to the other =
people=20
that put much more time into LTPC and lost much more money than you and =
I did=20
combined.</DIV>
<DIV>That=92s it Lisa, turn the other cheek. You only have one more to =
get slapped=20
or is it three. Your points are ludicrous to me. You are right only =
about=20
one thing. It's time to end this dialogue and move on to the next phase, =
to=20
litigate or not to litigate. My hat is off to Richard Moore who's done =
some good=20
work in moving this along to the next phase. </DIV>
<DIV> </DIV>
<DIV>Do not to reply back as I feel further discussion should only =
be about=20
next steps and they should not be discussed in an open forum like this. =
Besides=20
your point of view has already been stated.SLAP, SLAP</DIV>
<DIV> </DIV>
<DIV>Jeff</DIV>
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style=3D"BACKGROUND: #e4e4e4; FONT: 10pt arial; font-color: =
black"><B>From:</B>=20
<A href=3D"mailto:williamwalters@verizon.net">William C. Walters</A> =
</DIV>
<DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt arial"><B>To:</B> <A=20
href=3D"mailto:ltpc-disc@ltpcalums.com">ltpc-disc@ltpcalums.com</A> =
</DIV>
<DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Sent:</B> Tuesday, July 01, 2003 =
7:49=20
PM</DIV>
<DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Subject:</B> RE: =
[LTPC-discussions] LTPC=20
Comment Out of Context</DIV>
<DIV><BR></DIV>
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<DIV><SPAN class=3D930335222-01072003><FONT face=3DArial =
color=3D#0000ff=20
size=3D4><STRONG><U>A A Men, in context</U></STRONG>. I too =
have read=20
"Who Moved My Cheese" and this excellent little book has a wonderful =
message. The message that I got from the book was; when =
disaster=20
strikes in your life and your life=92s plans have been destroyed, it =
is=20
pointless and personally destructive to moan and groan about how =
unfair fate=20
has been to you. It is pointless and personally destructive to =
be=20
paralyzed by the experience and do nothing but whine about an =
apparently bad=20
turn in the road. You should unattached yourself from the =
negative=20
experience emotionally and start exploring the many new and better=20
opportunities that are open to you if you will just get off your =
duff, quit=20
whining and look.</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=3D4></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><SPAN class=3D930335222-01072003><FONT face=3DArial =
color=3D#0000ff size=3D4>I=20
agree with that thought in context. However the message was =
not meant=20
to encourage you to renounce your obligation to seek justice when =
wronged=20
while you are getting on with your life and looking for new and =
better=20
cheese. </FONT></SPAN></DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=3D4></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><SPAN class=3D930335222-01072003><FONT face=3DArial =
color=3D#0000ff size=3D4>If=20
we look at the world today and look back upon world history we find =
that=20
people who have been the victims of horrendous crimes did go about =
creating=20
a new life but they still pursued the purportrators of their =
suffering and=20
brought them to justice. Two examples are 1. The Holocaust =
(Nurenburg=20
Trails) and 2. Bosnia (The Hague trail of Slobadon=20
Malosivich).</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=3D4></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><SPAN class=3D930335222-01072003><FONT face=3DArial =
color=3D#0000ff size=3D4>It=20
is a very simplistic approach to apply the message of this fine =
little book=20
to all of life=92s situations and specifically to our effort to seek =
justice=20
from Cendant. To do so would encourage the abandonment of our =
justice=20
system and courts. Receiving justice helps people by =
compensating them=20
for the wrongs they have suffered, helps them to get on with their =
life and=20
look in new directions for new opportunities.</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=3D4></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><SPAN class=3D930335222-01072003><FONT face=3DArial =
color=3D#0000ff size=3D4>It=20
is na=EFve and simplistic to take a very practical philosophy such =
as found in=20
=93Who Moved My Cheese=94 and turn it into a clich=E9 in =
an attempt to=20
apply it to all of life=92s situations. </FONT></SPAN></DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=3D4></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><SPAN class=3D930335222-01072003><FONT face=3DArial =
color=3D#0000ff=20
size=3D4>Bill Walters<BR></FONT></SPAN></DIV></FONT></SPAN></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3D"Times New Roman" size=3D2><BR><B>From:</B>=20
ltpc-disc-admin@ltpcalums.com =
[mailto:ltpc-disc-admin@ltpcalums.com]<B>On=20
Behalf Of</B> Bob Hadidian<BR><B>Sent:</B> Tuesday, July 01, 2003 =
5:24=20
PM<BR><B>To:</B> ltpc-disc@ltpcalums.com<BR><B>Subject:</B> Re:=20
[LTPC-discussions] LTPC Comment<BR><BR></DIV></FONT>
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<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Can I hear an AMEN brothers and=20
sisters?</FONT></DIV>
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</DIV>
<DIV=20
style=3D"BACKGROUND: #e4e4e4; FONT: 10pt arial; font-color: =
black"><B>From:</B>=20
<A =
href=3D"mailto:LesaMelchor01@aol.com">LesaMelchor01@aol.com</A> </DIV>
<DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt arial"><B>To:</B> <A=20
=
href=3D"mailto:ltpc-disc@ltpcalums.com">ltpc-disc@ltpcalums.com</A> =
</DIV>
<DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Sent:</B> Tuesday, July 01, =
2003 2:17=20
PM</DIV>
<DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Subject:</B> =
[LTPC-discussions] LTPC=20
Comment</DIV>
<DIV><BR></DIV><FONT face=3Darial,helvetica><FONT lang=3D0 =
face=3DArial=20
color=3D#ff0080 size=3D3 =
FAMILY=3D"SANSSERIF">Colleagues,<BR><BR>My name is=20
Lesa Melchor from Orlando, Florida, and was with LTPC as an =
agent since=20
last August. I've not responded to the barrage of emails =
I've=20
gotten since the inception of this, often times, wonderful tool =
because=20
I've just sat back and absorbed the aftermath of the events of =
late=20
rather than taking a proactive stance. I've read many of =
the=20
emails and some I've had to delete as I've not had time to keep=20
up. As I've reflected on the emails I have read, one thing =
keeps=20
coming to mind.<BR>Has <B>ANYONE </B>read "WHO MOVED MY CHEESE," =
by=20
Spenser Johnson? It's a great little 45 minute read where =
4 mice,=20
representing the 4 basic ways that people handle change, are=20
outlined. Their responses to change obviously vary, from =
the one=20
mouse that refuses to "MOVE ON" by trying to revive a dead =
horse, to the=20
other mouse that continually tries to "require justice for being =
slighted" to the other mouse who gets wind of change, points his =
nose in=20
a new direction and charges forward, to the mouse who whines and =
complains about everything that was done wrong to him until he =
finally=20
realizes HE ALONE is responsible for the direction in his own=20
life. Reading much of these emails reminds me of those 4=20
mice. <BR><BR>I'm sure my comments aren't going to be the =
most=20
popular on the block, but hey, I'm a saleswoman, a risk taker, =
and I=20
don't mind being bold and forthright with my 'two cents'. =
You can=20
just delete me if you don't like what I have to say!!! Hey, my =
kids=20
do!!!! haha<BR><BR>I've listened to people complain about issues =
from=20
their 'leads' weren't derived from the proper sources, =
telemarketers at=20
best, to having Monday morning quarterback analysis of the =
intentions of=20
management, to wishing they had a crystal ball that would have =
told them=20
not to start with this company in the first place. What I =
find=20
most interesting is we along have the choice to make something =
of what=20
was given to us or we don't---but alot of folks rather live in =
denial=20
instead of taking responsibility for their own actions, sans me =
some of=20
the time. I got the same leads everyone else got, some =
were good,=20
some weren't. I worked the ones that were, made a lot of money =
and filed=20
13 the once that weren't...what's the big deal???? When I =
got=20
myself on the phones daily for my 3-4 hours, and stuck with it, =
I MADE=20
my 15/10/5. To be honest with you, the ratio was much=20
higher. I've worked for sales companies where all I was =
given was=20
a phonebook, a pair of high heeled shoes and the pavement so I =
was=20
grateful for any lead at all. <BR><BR>I can't control the =
motives of=20
corporate officials, and I've learned along time ago that =
although I=20
can't control the outcome, I damn sure can control my =
response! I=20
have the ability to make decisions and make choices that are =
good for me=20
and mine, sans, this situation. The best salesperson, from =
my=20
experience in sales and in management, never gets 'hung up' in =
excuses,=20
they just look for the target, walk through fire and do what no =
one else=20
will do to get where they need to get. Those who stop to =
smell the=20
wreckage are only hindered by their own thinking.<BR><BR>Sure, I =
might=20
not have liked how certain officials handled themselves, or how =
certain=20
events played out, but in the scheme of life, is this really a =
deal=20
breaker?????? Do we really have all the behind the scenes =
facts to=20
make accurate statements? NO, we don't. And I for one am =
too busy=20
in my life to worry about it. At the end of the day, =
folks, this=20
ship has sunk and we NEED NEW CHEESE!!!!!! <BR><BR>Please =
don't=20
get me wrong, I know there were people hired in the 4th quarter =
of this=20
game, and I didn't like it either, but are you going to look at =
this=20
glass half empty or half full? Take from life the =
experiences that=20
it gives you, step up to the plate and swing---and don't strike =
out=20
lookin'!!!!!!!! Sometimes you win, sometimes you =
lose---it's=20
definitely how you respond that makes you grow!!! This =
isn't the=20
first time you've probably had to start over, and I'm quite sure =
it=20
won't be the last....so smile, put on a good attitude, accept =
nothing=20
but the best from yourself and MOVE =
FORWARD!!!!!!!<BR><BR>Colleagues, I=20
exhort you to follow what makes you happy, what gives you peace =
and what=20
provides for your family. Because, in the end, baring a=20
relationship with God Himself, that's the only thing that really =
matters!<BR><BR>God Bless,<BR><BR>Lesa=20
=
Melchor<BR><BR><BR></BLOCKQUOTE></BLOCKQUOTE></BLOCKQUOTE></BLOCKQUOTE></=
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