[LTPC-discussions] Want your opinion
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Mon, 7 Jul 2003 10:30:59 EDT
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What a pitiful response. Those that are shaking their heads at all of this do
not have their heads in a hole. By the way, that would be sand, not hole. But
anyway, these peoples heads are now and always will be held high. It's how we
are wired. We don't let little blips on the radar screen of our career send
us into a tail spin. Obviously you didn't read my mail that carefully. Also, I
am 39, so probably in the lower 35% of former LTPCers. That takes care of that
theory!
$20,000 is worth fighting for if the fight was warranted. How many times does
this have to be said? No company has EVER announced from the mountain tops
that they were going out of business until it was an absolute. Talk to people
that are informed about this and they will tell you. Every effort was being made
to either sell LTPC (CNA/Robert Foreman), or change it. Does anyone really
think that during that process Progeny should have told everyone that if it
doesn't work "we're done"? That would have sunk the ship immediately! Progeny owed
it to us to do everything necessary to save the company. A decision was made
by people who run the company to close it.They gave us fair warning, made the
transition smooth enough for someone with any heart to get on their feet.
It's just plain and simply bitterness and greed in my opinion. As I said
before, I have friends from LTPC who were not vested. Would it be nice for
Progeny to vest everyone? You bet! But it's not deserved! Nor should it be expected.
Finally Jeff, yes I do consider this to be "cry baby" situation. If you asked
someone a day after they signed their contract if there was any chance of
this company could go out of business, they would ALL say "well, of course
theres always a chance". Well, guess what? It happened. This milk we all
voluntarily spilled ourselves. If I was a new employer of the cry babies, I'd have to
seriously consider added the phrase "Now we might go out of business one day
okay?" "Pretty please understand that okay" to their contracts.
Everyone take a deep breath and ponder this. Isn't this the kind of potential
lawsuit that we all complain about around the water cooler? I guess it is
unless it's affecting you Then right or wrong, signed a contract or not, getting
some $ unethically is better than getting none at all right?
Regards
Berry
P.S. Jeff, I get alot more forward thinking e-mails than the other!
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=3D"Arial" LANG=3D"0">What a pitiful response. Those that are shaking their=20=
heads at all of this do not have their heads in a hole. By the way, that wou=
ld be sand, not hole. But anyway, these peoples heads are now and always wil=
l be held high. It's how we are wired. We don't let little blips on the rada=
r screen of our career send us into a tail spin. Obviously you didn't read m=
y mail that carefully. Also, I am 39, so probably in the lower 35% of former=
LTPCers. That takes care of that theory!<BR>
<BR>
$20,000 is worth fighting for if the fight was warranted. How many times doe=
s this have to be said? No company has EVER announced from the mountain tops=
that they were going out of business until it was an absolute. Talk to peop=
le that are informed about this and they will tell you. Every effort was bei=
ng made to either sell LTPC (CNA/Robert Foreman), or change it. Does anyone=20=
really think that during that process Progeny should have told everyone that=
if it doesn't work "we're done"? That would have sunk the ship immediately!=
Progeny owed it to us to do everything necessary to save the company. A dec=
ision was made by people who run the company to close it.They gave us fair w=
arning, made the transition smooth enough for someone with any heart to get=20=
on their feet.<BR>
<BR>
It's just plain and simply bitterness and greed in my opinion. As I said bef=
ore, I have friends from LTPC who were not vested. Would it be nice fo=
r Progeny to vest everyone? You bet! But it's not deserved! Nor should it be=
expected.<BR>
<BR>
Finally Jeff, yes I do consider this to be "cry baby" situation. If you aske=
d someone a day after they signed their contract if there was any chance of=20=
this company could go out of business, they would ALL say "well,=
of course theres always a chance". Well, guess what? It happened. This milk=
we all voluntarily spilled ourselves. If I was a new employer of the cry ba=
bies, I'd have to seriously consider added the phrase "Now we might go out o=
f business one day okay?" "Pretty please understand that okay" to their cont=
racts.<BR>
<BR>
Everyone take a deep breath and ponder this. Isn't this the kind of potentia=
l lawsuit that we all complain about around the water cooler? I guess it is=20=
unless it's affecting you Then right or wrong, signed a contract or no=
t, getting some $ unethically is better than getting none at all right?<BR>
<BR>
Regards<BR>
<BR>
Berry<BR>
<BR>
P.S. Jeff, I get alot more forward thinking e-mails than the other!<BR>
<BR>
<BR>
<BR>
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