[LTPC-discussions] Want your opinion
Hugh&Elke
ltpc-disc@ltpcalums.com
Mon, 7 Jul 2003 16:34:33 -0400
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Let's see...
If you were Progeny and could either sell the company for $2 million =
sammolians or take a $12 million write-off (and the renewal $$$), what =
would you do if YOU were the CFO/CEO??
Time's up!
Please remove me from the list. NOTHING seems to work...
Hugh
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From: LTCare716@aol.com=20
To: ltpc-disc@ltpcalums.com=20
Sent: Monday, July 07, 2003 10:30
Subject: Re: [LTPC-discussions] Want your opinion
What a pitiful response. Those that are shaking their heads at all of =
this do not have their heads in a hole. By the way, that would be sand, =
not hole. But anyway, these peoples heads are now and always will be =
held high. It's how we are wired. We don't let little blips on the radar =
screen of our career send us into a tail spin. Obviously you didn't read =
my mail that carefully. Also, I am 39, so probably in the lower 35% of =
former LTPCers. That takes care of that theory!
$20,000 is worth fighting for if the fight was warranted. How many times =
does this have to be said? No company has EVER announced from the =
mountain tops that they were going out of business until it was an =
absolute. Talk to people that are informed about this and they will tell =
you. Every effort was being made to either sell LTPC (CNA/Robert =
Foreman), or change it. Does anyone really think that during that =
process Progeny should have told everyone that if it doesn't work "we're =
done"? That would have sunk the ship immediately! Progeny owed it to us =
to do everything necessary to save the company. A decision was made by =
people who run the company to close it.They gave us fair warning, made =
the transition smooth enough for someone with any heart to get on their =
feet.
It's just plain and simply bitterness and greed in my opinion. As I said =
before, I have friends from LTPC who were not vested. Would it be nice =
for Progeny to vest everyone? You bet! But it's not deserved! Nor should =
it be expected.
Finally Jeff, yes I do consider this to be "cry baby" situation. If you =
asked someone a day after they signed their contract if there was any =
chance of this company could go out of business, they would ALL say =
"well, of course theres always a chance". Well, guess what? It happened. =
This milk we all voluntarily spilled ourselves. If I was a new employer =
of the cry babies, I'd have to seriously consider added the phrase "Now =
we might go out of business one day okay?" "Pretty please understand =
that okay" to their contracts.
Everyone take a deep breath and ponder this. Isn't this the kind of =
potential lawsuit that we all complain about around the water cooler? I =
guess it is unless it's affecting you Then right or wrong, signed a =
contract or not, getting some $ unethically is better than getting none =
at all right?
Regards
Berry
P.S. Jeff, I get alot more forward thinking e-mails than the other!
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<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Let's see...</FONT></DIV>
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<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>If you were Progeny and could either =
sell the=20
company for $2 million sammolians or take a $12 million write-off (and =
the=20
renewal $$$), what would you do if YOU were the CFO/CEO??</FONT></DIV>
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<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Time's up!</FONT></DIV>
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<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2><STRONG>Please remove me from the list. =
NOTHING=20
seems to work...</STRONG></FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2><STRONG></STRONG></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2><STRONG>Hugh</STRONG></FONT></DIV>
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<DIV><B>Sent:</B> Monday, July 07, 2003 10:30</DIV>
<DIV><B>Subject:</B> Re: [LTPC-discussions] Want your =
opinion</DIV></DIV>
<DIV><BR></DIV><FONT face=3Darial,helvetica><FONT lang=3D0 face=3DArial =
size=3D2=20
FAMILY=3D"SANSSERIF">What a pitiful response. Those that are shaking =
their heads=20
at all of this do not have their heads in a hole. By the way, that would =
be=20
sand, not hole. But anyway, these peoples heads are now and always will =
be held=20
high. It's how we are wired. We don't let little blips on the radar =
screen of=20
our career send us into a tail spin. Obviously you didn't read my mail =
that=20
carefully. Also, I am 39, so probably in the lower 35% of former =
LTPCers. That=20
takes care of that theory!<BR><BR>$20,000 is worth fighting for if the =
fight was=20
warranted. How many times does this have to be said? No company has EVER =
announced from the mountain tops that they were going out of business =
until it=20
was an absolute. Talk to people that are informed about this and they =
will tell=20
you. Every effort was being made to either sell LTPC (CNA/Robert =
Foreman), or=20
change it. Does anyone really think that during that process Progeny =
should have=20
told everyone that if it doesn't work "we're done"? That would have sunk =
the=20
ship immediately! Progeny owed it to us to do everything necessary to =
save the=20
company. A decision was made by people who run the company to close =
it.They gave=20
us fair warning, made the transition smooth enough for someone with any =
heart to=20
get on their feet.<BR><BR>It's just plain and simply bitterness and =
greed in my=20
opinion. As I said before, I have friends from LTPC who were not =
vested.=20
Would it be nice for Progeny to vest everyone? You bet! But it's not =
deserved!=20
Nor should it be expected.<BR><BR>Finally Jeff, yes I do consider this =
to be=20
"cry baby" situation. If you asked someone a day after they signed their =
contract if there was any chance of this company could go =
out of=20
business, they would ALL say "well, of course theres always a chance". =
Well,=20
guess what? It happened. This milk we all voluntarily spilled ourselves. =
If I=20
was a new employer of the cry babies, I'd have to seriously consider =
added the=20
phrase "Now we might go out of business one day okay?" "Pretty please =
understand=20
that okay" to their contracts.<BR><BR>Everyone take a deep breath and =
ponder=20
this. Isn't this the kind of potential lawsuit that we all complain =
about around=20
the water cooler? I guess it is unless it's affecting you Then =
right or=20
wrong, signed a contract or not, getting some $ unethically is better =
than=20
getting none at all right?<BR><BR>Regards<BR><BR>Berry<BR><BR>P.S. Jeff, =
I get=20
alot more forward thinking e-mails than the=20
other!<BR><BR><BR><BR></FONT></FONT></BODY></HTML>
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