[LTPC-discussions] So you think us newcomers got ths shaft? YES I DO.

Bob Hadidian ltpc-disc@ltpcalums.com
Mon, 14 Jul 2003 14:28:32 -0700


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Richard


I am having a hard time understanding why the market segment that =
already has the product you are selling is so important to you. If they =
have a policy, chances are you can't help them. If there is a waiting =
period that is ending LTPC/Progeny/Cendant is not going to be able to =
help them.
 If someone needs your help, HELP THEM.

What exactly do you want from Cendant for not being nice to you?

I ask the question again. Exactly what part of the CONTRACT did they not =
live up to?=20

I repeat, I HAVE BETTERED MY SITUATION  WITHOUT HAVING TO PAY A LAWYER =
35%. What more do I need.

I also repeat, "The expression of my opinion does not constitute an =
attack on anyone else"

Bob


  ----- Original Message -----=20
  From: ShampooRic@aol.com=20
  To: ltpc-disc@ltpcalums.com=20
  Sent: Monday, July 14, 2003 2:11 PM
  Subject: Re: [LTPC-discussions] So you think us newcomers got ths =
shaft? YES I DO.


  I agree we all signed a contract.  I don't think that anyone is =
sitting around waiting for a handout, or waiting to see what happens =
before taking a job.  Everyone is working if they want too.  Plenty of =
opportunity out there.  Sold A JH policy today thankyou.

  This is important for vested and non vested agents. =20

  1.  Is the contract binding since they do not market LTC anymore? =20

  2.  Is there legal recourse for those that are not vested?

  3.  Did the company violate any laws by hiring agents that they knew =
were going to be terminated? =20

  4. Did they violate labor laws? =20

  5.  An 18 month waiting period might be ruled too extreme based on our =
industry, the way premiums are increasing,  the way peoples health can =
change overnight, based on that now someone's waiting period might be =
over and they are eligible for coverage. =20

  These are only a few of the questions I have.  They lied to agents, =
support staff, policy holders, affinity groups.  I am not an attorney, =
this is not legal advice.  When I get back some answers form the firm =
that is looking at this I will post it.  I would understand this better =
if this was a family business that was forced to close its doors.  But =
this is not the case.

  Richard

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<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Richard</FONT></DIV>
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<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>I am having a hard time understanding =
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market segment that already has the product you are selling is so =
important to=20
you.&nbsp;If they have a policy, chances are you can't help them. If =
there is a=20
waiting period that is ending LTPC/Progeny/Cendant is not going to be =
able to=20
help them.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>&nbsp;If someone needs your help, HELP=20
THEM.</FONT></DIV>
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<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>What exactly do you want from Cendant =
for not being=20
nice to you?</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>I ask the question again. Exactly what =
part of=20
the&nbsp;CONTRACT did they not live up to? </FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>I repeat, I HAVE BETTERED MY=20
SITUATION&nbsp;&nbsp;WITHOUT HAVING TO PAY A LAWYER 35%. What more do I=20
need.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>I also repeat, "The expression of my =
opinion does=20
not constitute an attack on anyone else"</FONT></DIV>
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<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Bob</FONT></DIV>
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  <A title=3DShampooRic@aol.com=20
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  <DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Sent:</B> Monday, July 14, 2003 =
2:11 PM</DIV>
  <DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Subject:</B> Re: [LTPC-discussions] =
So you=20
  think us newcomers got ths shaft? YES I DO.</DIV>
  <DIV><BR></DIV><FONT face=3Darial,helvetica><FONT lang=3D0 =
face=3DArial size=3D2=20
  FAMILY=3D"SANSSERIF">I agree we all signed a contract.&nbsp; I don't =
think that=20
  anyone is sitting around waiting for a handout, or waiting to see what =
happens=20
  before taking a job.&nbsp; Everyone is working if they want too.&nbsp; =
Plenty=20
  of opportunity out there.&nbsp; Sold A JH policy today =
thankyou.<BR><BR>This=20
  is important for vested and non vested agents.&nbsp; <BR><BR>1.&nbsp; =
Is the=20
  contract binding since they do not market LTC anymore?&nbsp; =
<BR><BR>2.&nbsp;=20
  Is there legal recourse for those that are not vested?<BR><BR>3.&nbsp; =
Did the=20
  company violate any laws by hiring agents that they knew were going to =
be=20
  terminated?&nbsp; <BR><BR>4. Did they violate labor laws?&nbsp;=20
  <BR><BR>5.&nbsp; An 18 month waiting period might be ruled too extreme =
based=20
  on our industry, the way premiums are increasing,&nbsp; the way =
peoples health=20
  can change overnight, based on that now someone's waiting period might =
be over=20
  and they are eligible for coverage.&nbsp; <BR><BR>These are only a few =
of the=20
  questions I have.&nbsp; They lied to agents, support staff, policy =
holders,=20
  affinity groups.&nbsp; I am not an attorney, this is not legal =
advice.&nbsp;=20
  When I get back some answers form the firm that is looking at this I =
will post=20
  it.&nbsp; I would understand this better if this was a family business =
that=20
  was forced to close its doors.&nbsp; But this is not the=20
  case.<BR><BR>Richard<BR></BLOCKQUOTE></FONT></FONT></BODY></HTML>

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