[LTPC-discussions] LTCI and tax for self employed and C corp.

Brad Fritz ltpc-disc@ltpcalums.com
Tue, 15 Jul 2003 15:06:37 -0400


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They may be 100% deductible in 2003 but I believe the amount is based on =
attained age.  Like Age 41-50 $470 is the amount you can deduct.  Age 71 =
and older $3,130.   Is this right?     Brad
  ----- Original Message -----=20
  From: ShampooRic@aol.com=20
  To: ltpc-disc@ltpcalums.com=20
  Sent: Tuesday, July 15, 2003 10:24 AM
  Subject: [LTPC-discussions] LTCI and tax for self employed and C corp.


  Tax laws and LTC premiums for self employed and C corporations.  Even =
non tax qualified plans meet deductibility.  In 23 now 100% deductible.

  Richard

  Self-employed

  The new federal law increases the medical insurance premium tax =
deduction (which includes Long Term Care premiums) for self-employed =
individuals. The law permits a percentage of all health insurance =
premiums to be deducted from taxable income.

  For a  self-employed individual (including sole proprietors, partners =
and 2%+ shareholders of an S-Corporation)  the general rules are as =
follows:

  Tax deductions: The self-employed individual can deduct a percentage =
of eligible premiums paid for a tax qualified Long Term Care Insurance =
plan as a business expense.

  Tax Years
  Premium % That is Deductible=20



  1999-2001 60%=20
  2002 70%=20
  2003 100%=20






  This schedule of premium tax deductibility applies only to  the =
self-employed. They do not have to itemize deductions in order to =
qualify  for this deduction or satisfy the 7.5% threshold of adjusted =
gross income. The only requirement is that the deduction  cannot exceed =
the net profit from self-employment.










  C-Corporations

  You can use 100% Deductible Corporate Dollars to
  Protect Your Retirement Assets and Lifestyle



  Why should busy business owners think about long-term=20
  care insurance?










  Today's pre-tax dollars can protect your personal assets tomorrow and =
in retirement.


  Costs may be 100% tax deductible for your business and not taxable to =
the employees as gross income.


  The benefits, when received, are tax-free.


  Exclusively protect yourself, selected employees - even spouses!




  Premium payments for a tax-qualified Long-Term Care Insurance policy =
are fully (100%) deductible as a reasonable and necessary business =
expense for C-Corporations (IRC  Sec.7702B[a][3]). Rules vary for =
Sole-Proprietorships, Partnerships, and LLCs.  Federal limits were =
increased in 2001.  Call for specified 2001 limits.=20







  LTC Policy Purchases are Not Subject=20
  to Any Non-Discrimination Rules
  classes of select employees are eligible for corporate-paid long-term =
care insurance. =20
  Even spouses may be covered under such plans!











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<DIV><FONT size=3D2>They may be 100% deductible in 2003 but I believe =
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deduct.&nbsp; Age 71 and older $3,130.&nbsp;&nbsp; Is this=20
right?&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; Brad</FONT></DIV>
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LTCI and tax=20
  for self employed and C corp.</DIV>
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face=3DArial size=3D5=20
  FAMILY=3D"SANSSERIF">Tax laws and LTC premiums for self employed and C =

  corporations.&nbsp; Even non tax qualified plans meet =
deductibility.&nbsp; In=20
  23 now 100% deductible.<BR><BR>Richard<BR><BR></FONT><FONT lang=3D0=20
  style=3D"BACKGROUND-COLOR: #ffffff" face=3DArial color=3D#000080 =
size=3D3=20
  FAMILY=3D"SANSSERIF"><B>Self-employed</FONT><FONT lang=3D0=20
  style=3D"BACKGROUND-COLOR: #ffffff" face=3DArial color=3D#000000 =
size=3D3=20
  FAMILY=3D"SANSSERIF"><BR><BR></FONT><FONT lang=3D0=20
  style=3D"BACKGROUND-COLOR: #ffffff" face=3DArial color=3D#000000 =
size=3D2=20
  FAMILY=3D"SANSSERIF"></B>The new federal law increases the medical =
insurance=20
  premium tax deduction (which includes Long Term Care premiums) for=20
  self-employed individuals. The law permits a percentage of all health=20
  insurance premiums to be deducted from taxable income.<BR></FONT><FONT =
lang=3D0=20
  style=3D"BACKGROUND-COLOR: #ffffff" face=3DArial color=3D#000000 =
size=3D3=20
  FAMILY=3D"SANSSERIF"><BR></FONT><FONT lang=3D0 =
style=3D"BACKGROUND-COLOR: #ffffff"=20
  face=3DArial color=3D#000000 size=3D2 FAMILY=3D"SANSSERIF"><B>For a=20
  &nbsp;self-employed individual (including sole proprietors, partners =
and 2%+=20
  shareholders of an S-Corporation) &nbsp;the general rules are as=20
  follows:<BR></FONT><FONT lang=3D0 style=3D"BACKGROUND-COLOR: #ffffff" =
face=3DArial=20
  color=3D#000000 size=3D3 FAMILY=3D"SANSSERIF"></B><BR></FONT><FONT =
lang=3D0=20
  style=3D"BACKGROUND-COLOR: #ffffff" face=3DArial color=3D#000000 =
size=3D2=20
  FAMILY=3D"SANSSERIF"><B>Tax deductions: </B>The self-employed =
individual can=20
  deduct a percentage of eligible premiums paid for a tax qualified Long =
Term=20
  Care Insurance plan as a business expense.</FONT><FONT lang=3D0=20
  style=3D"BACKGROUND-COLOR: #ffffff" face=3DArial color=3D#000000 =
size=3D3=20
  FAMILY=3D"SANSSERIF"><BR><BR><B>Tax Years</B><BR><B>Premium % That is=20
  Deductible</B> <BR><BR><BR>
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#ffffff"=20
  face=3DArial color=3D#000000 size=3D2 =
FAMILY=3D"SANSSERIF">1999-2001</FONT><FONT=20
  lang=3D0 style=3D"BACKGROUND-COLOR: #ffffff" face=3DArial =
color=3D#000000 size=3D3=20
  FAMILY=3D"SANSSERIF"> </FONT><FONT lang=3D0 style=3D"BACKGROUND-COLOR: =
#ffffff"=20
  face=3DArial color=3D#000000 size=3D2 =
FAMILY=3D"SANSSERIF">60%</FONT><FONT lang=3D0=20
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size=3D3=20
  FAMILY=3D"SANSSERIF"> <BR></FONT><FONT lang=3D0 =
style=3D"BACKGROUND-COLOR: #ffffff"=20
  face=3DArial color=3D#000000 size=3D2 =
FAMILY=3D"SANSSERIF">2002</FONT><FONT lang=3D0=20
  style=3D"BACKGROUND-COLOR: #ffffff" face=3DArial color=3D#000000 =
size=3D3=20
  FAMILY=3D"SANSSERIF"> </FONT><FONT lang=3D0 style=3D"BACKGROUND-COLOR: =
#ffffff"=20
  face=3DArial color=3D#000000 size=3D2 =
FAMILY=3D"SANSSERIF">70%</FONT><FONT lang=3D0=20
  style=3D"BACKGROUND-COLOR: #ffffff" face=3DArial color=3D#000000 =
size=3D3=20
  FAMILY=3D"SANSSERIF"> <BR></FONT><FONT lang=3D0 =
style=3D"BACKGROUND-COLOR: #ffffff"=20
  face=3DArial color=3D#000000 size=3D2 =
FAMILY=3D"SANSSERIF">2003</FONT><FONT lang=3D0=20
  style=3D"BACKGROUND-COLOR: #ffffff" face=3DArial color=3D#000000 =
size=3D3=20
  FAMILY=3D"SANSSERIF"> </FONT><FONT lang=3D0 style=3D"BACKGROUND-COLOR: =
#ffffff"=20
  face=3DArial color=3D#000000 size=3D2 =
FAMILY=3D"SANSSERIF">100%</FONT><FONT lang=3D0=20
  style=3D"BACKGROUND-COLOR: #ffffff" face=3DArial color=3D#000000 =
size=3D3=20
  FAMILY=3D"SANSSERIF"> <BR><BR>
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  <P align=3Dcenter></FONT><FONT lang=3D0 style=3D"BACKGROUND-COLOR: =
#ffffff"=20
  face=3DArial color=3D#000000 size=3D1 FAMILY=3D"SANSSERIF">This =
schedule of premium=20
  tax deductibility applies only to &nbsp;the self-employed. They do not =
have to=20
  itemize deductions in order to qualify &nbsp;for this deduction or =
satisfy the=20
  7.5% threshold of adjusted gross income. The only requirement is that =
the=20
  deduction &nbsp;cannot exceed the net profit from =
self-employment.</FONT><FONT=20
  lang=3D0 style=3D"BACKGROUND-COLOR: #ffffff" face=3DArial =
color=3D#000000 size=3D3=20
  FAMILY=3D"SANSSERIF"><BR><BR>
  <P align=3Dleft><BR>
  <P align=3Dcenter></FONT><FONT lang=3D0 style=3D"BACKGROUND-COLOR: =
#ffffff"=20
  face=3DArial color=3D#000000 size=3D5 FAMILY=3D"SANSSERIF"><BR><BR>
  <P align=3Dleft></FONT><FONT lang=3D0 style=3D"BACKGROUND-COLOR: =
#ffffff" face=3DArial=20
  color=3D#000080 size=3D3 =
FAMILY=3D"SANSSERIF"><B>C-Corporations</FONT><FONT lang=3D0=20
  style=3D"BACKGROUND-COLOR: #ffffff" face=3DArial color=3D#000000 =
size=3D3=20
  FAMILY=3D"SANSSERIF"><BR><BR>You can use 100% Deductible Corporate =
Dollars=20
  to<BR>Protect Your Retirement Assets and Lifestyle</B><BR><BR>
  <P align=3Dcenter><B>Why should busy business owners think about=20
  long-term&nbsp;<BR>care insurance?</B><BR><BR>
  <P align=3Dleft><BR>
  <P align=3Dcenter><BR>
  <P align=3Dleft><BR></FONT><FONT lang=3D0 style=3D"BACKGROUND-COLOR: =
#ffffff"=20
  face=3DArial color=3D#000000 size=3D2 FAMILY=3D"SANSSERIF">Today's =
pre-tax dollars can=20
  protect your personal assets tomorrow and in retirement.</FONT><FONT =
lang=3D0=20
  style=3D"BACKGROUND-COLOR: #ffffff" face=3DArial color=3D#000000 =
size=3D3=20
  FAMILY=3D"SANSSERIF"><BR><BR><BR></FONT><FONT lang=3D0=20
  style=3D"BACKGROUND-COLOR: #ffffff" face=3DArial color=3D#000000 =
size=3D2=20
  FAMILY=3D"SANSSERIF">Costs may be 100% tax deductible for your =
business and not=20
  taxable to the employees as gross income.</FONT><FONT lang=3D0=20
  style=3D"BACKGROUND-COLOR: #ffffff" face=3DArial color=3D#000000 =
size=3D3=20
  FAMILY=3D"SANSSERIF"><BR><BR><BR></FONT><FONT lang=3D0=20
  style=3D"BACKGROUND-COLOR: #ffffff" face=3DArial color=3D#000000 =
size=3D2=20
  FAMILY=3D"SANSSERIF">The benefits, when received, are =
tax-free.</FONT><FONT=20
  lang=3D0 style=3D"BACKGROUND-COLOR: #ffffff" face=3DArial =
color=3D#000000 size=3D3=20
  FAMILY=3D"SANSSERIF"><BR><BR><BR></FONT><FONT lang=3D0=20
  style=3D"BACKGROUND-COLOR: #ffffff" face=3DArial color=3D#000000 =
size=3D2=20
  FAMILY=3D"SANSSERIF">Exclusively protect yourself, selected employees =
- even=20
  spouses!</FONT><FONT lang=3D0 style=3D"BACKGROUND-COLOR: #ffffff" =
face=3DArial=20
  color=3D#000000 size=3D3 FAMILY=3D"SANSSERIF"><BR><BR><BR>
  <P align=3Dcenter></FONT><FONT lang=3D0 style=3D"BACKGROUND-COLOR: =
#ffffff"=20
  face=3DArial color=3D#000000 size=3D2 FAMILY=3D"SANSSERIF">Premium =
payments for a=20
  tax-qualified Long-Term Care Insurance policy are fully (100%) =
deductible as a=20
  reasonable and necessary business expense for C-Corporations =
(IRC&nbsp;=20
  Sec.7702B[a][3]).</FONT><FONT lang=3D0 style=3D"BACKGROUND-COLOR: =
#ffffff"=20
  face=3DArial color=3D#000000 size=3D3 FAMILY=3D"SANSSERIF"> =
</FONT><FONT lang=3D0=20
  style=3D"BACKGROUND-COLOR: #ffffff" face=3DArial color=3D#000000 =
size=3D2=20
  FAMILY=3D"SANSSERIF">Rules vary for Sole-Proprietorships, =
Partnerships, and=20
  LLCs.&nbsp; Federal limits were increased in 2001.&nbsp; Call for =
specified=20
  2001 limits.</FONT><FONT lang=3D0 style=3D"BACKGROUND-COLOR: #ffffff" =
face=3DArial=20
  color=3D#000000 size=3D3 FAMILY=3D"SANSSERIF"> <BR><BR>
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  <P align=3Dcenter></FONT><FONT lang=3D0 style=3D"BACKGROUND-COLOR: =
#ffffff"=20
  face=3DArial color=3D#ffffff size=3D4 FAMILY=3D"SANSSERIF">LTC Policy =
Purchases are=20
  Not Subject&nbsp;<BR>to Any Non-Discrimination Rules<BR></FONT><FONT =
lang=3D0=20
  style=3D"BACKGROUND-COLOR: #ffffff" face=3DArial color=3D#ffffff =
size=3D2=20
  FAMILY=3D"SANSSERIF">classes of select employees are eligible for =
corporate-paid=20
  long-term care insurance.&nbsp;&nbsp;<BR>Even spouses may be covered =
under=20
  such plans!</FONT><FONT lang=3D0 style=3D"BACKGROUND-COLOR: #ffffff" =
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