From DianaGM at dgmweb.net  Mon May 26 04:22:57 2008
From: DianaGM at dgmweb.net (Diana Gale Matthiesen)
Date: Mon, 26 May 2008 04:22:57 -0400
Subject: [RASEY-DNA] New Member #110919, with results, desc/o Joseph RAZEE I
Message-ID: <002101c8bf09$b470c780$6401a8c0@HP>

Hello List,

First, I would like to apologize for my recent absence in managing the list.
Illness and a death in the family put genealogy on the back burner for several
months, but now I'm back home in Florida and, finally, getting caught up.  So, I
hope our newest member will forgive me for not annoucing him at the time he
joined or when his results first came in -- of course, he has known the results
of his testing, even if the rest of you haven't.

Our new member is #110919, a descendant of Joseph RAZEE I.  He is a 35/37 match
(genetic distance of 3) with #70816, the previously tested descendant of Joseph
RAZEE I.  Their three differences are all on fast-mutating markers, so this
level of matching is consistent with the two of them having a near common
ancestor:

http://dgmweb.net/genealogy/DNA/Rasey/RaseyDNA-results.shtml#I2b1

Now that we have two descendants of Joseph RAZEE I tested, ones who descend from
Joseph through different sons, we can rest assured that neither individual has
an NPE (a "non-paternal event," e.g., a hidden adoption or illicit paternity) in
his patrilineal line.  (We still don't have a second descendant of Joseph RASEY
I tested, so there is still an outside chance that the one we do have tested
could have an NPE.)

You will undoubtedly notice the change in haplogroup designation, from I1b2a
(old I1c) to I2b1.  On 5 May 2008, the International Society of Genetic
Genealogy (ISOGG) and FamilyTreeDNA released a long-awaited revision of the
Y-DNA haplotree.  This revision was necessitated by the many new SNP mutations
discovered since FTDNA last published their Y-Hap tree in 2005.  I'm afraid we
will all just have to get used to the new designations, and I'm also afraid
we'll have to do it again when the haplotree is revised again -- such is the
nature of a new science that keeps evolving (pun intended).

I recommend that our new member upload his results to Ysearch.  This can be done
from the "Y-DNA Matches" tab on your member page.

Thank you for joining, and thank you for your patience.

Diana


From jim.jhtyler at gmail.com  Mon May 26 08:30:47 2008
From: jim.jhtyler at gmail.com (Jim Tyler)
Date: Mon, 26 May 2008 08:30:47 -0400
Subject: [RASEY-DNA] New Member #110919, with results,
	desc/o Joseph RAZEE I
In-Reply-To: <002101c8bf09$b470c780$6401a8c0@HP>
References: <002101c8bf09$b470c780$6401a8c0@HP>
Message-ID: <4ebc9a870805260530o1f093aafu86bea45e8b63ebff@mail.gmail.com>

Hi Diana,
My condolences on your family loss.
Perhaps it is time to underwrite another test of of a Joseph
RASEY descendant. To that I extent I will subscribe to the 12 marker test of
a volunteer.
Maybe some folks are put out by the results of Duane's test and are
reluctant to know the truth. We should mention that they receive a neat
certificate of their haplotype group. I will leave it up to you to post to
the RASEY Rootsweb letter.
Enjoy the holiday,
Jim

On Mon, May 26, 2008 at 4:22 AM, Diana Gale Matthiesen <DianaGM at dgmweb.net>
wrote:

> Hello List,
>
> First, I would like to apologize for my recent absence in managing the
> list.
> Illness and a death in the family put genealogy on the back burner for
> several
> months, but now I'm back home in Florida and, finally, getting caught up.
>  So, I
> hope our newest member will forgive me for not annoucing him at the time he
> joined or when his results first came in -- of course, he has known the
> results
> of his testing, even if the rest of you haven't.
>
> Our new member is #110919, a descendant of Joseph RAZEE I.  He is a 35/37
> match
> (genetic distance of 3) with #70816, the previously tested descendant of
> Joseph
> RAZEE I.  Their three differences are all on fast-mutating markers, so this
> level of matching is consistent with the two of them having a near common
> ancestor:
>
> http://dgmweb.net/genealogy/DNA/Rasey/RaseyDNA-results.shtml#I2b1
>
> Now that we have two descendants of Joseph RAZEE I tested, ones who descend
> from
> Joseph through different sons, we can rest assured that neither individual
> has
> an NPE (a "non-paternal event," e.g., a hidden adoption or illicit
> paternity) in
> his patrilineal line.  (We still don't have a second descendant of Joseph
> RASEY
> I tested, so there is still an outside chance that the one we do have
> tested
> could have an NPE.)
>
> You will undoubtedly notice the change in haplogroup designation, from
> I1b2a
> (old I1c) to I2b1.  On 5 May 2008, the International Society of Genetic
> Genealogy (ISOGG) and FamilyTreeDNA released a long-awaited revision of the
> Y-DNA haplotree.  This revision was necessitated by the many new SNP
> mutations
> discovered since FTDNA last published their Y-Hap tree in 2005.  I'm afraid
> we
> will all just have to get used to the new designations, and I'm also afraid
> we'll have to do it again when the haplotree is revised again -- such is
> the
> nature of a new science that keeps evolving (pun intended).
>
> I recommend that our new member upload his results to Ysearch.  This can be
> done
> from the "Y-DNA Matches" tab on your member page.
>
> Thank you for joining, and thank you for your patience.
>
> Diana
>
> _______________________________________________
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> RASEY-DNA at dgmweb.net
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>

From onthego58 at hotmail.com  Mon May 26 08:37:04 2008
From: onthego58 at hotmail.com (Duane Rasey)
Date: Mon, 26 May 2008 08:37:04 -0400
Subject: [RASEY-DNA] New Member #110919, with results,
 desc/o Joseph RAZEE I
In-Reply-To: <002101c8bf09$b470c780$6401a8c0@HP>
References: <002101c8bf09$b470c780$6401a8c0@HP>
Message-ID: <BAY118-W4AA50D5EB05930CA154F0B2C20@phx.gbl>


Happy to hear from you again.Sorry to hear about what has happen in your family. Death is something we all have to deal with but something we wish we didn't have to when it comes to family. I also have had to deal with the loss of family members the last few months and not easy to deal with.
On to more enjoyable things to talk aboput. Still no connections but still lookings. Was also happy to hear from you because my computer decided I had to change browser conection without asking me first. So I had no way of getting to my DNA trest results because the computer just would not let me do it no matter what I did.
Also my father passed away in Febuary of 2001 so I guess his name could now be posted in the Line of Ira's.
Thanks again for every thing you have done.
Duane Rasey
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From kenneth.razee at fmglobal.com  Tue May 27 10:45:27 2008
From: kenneth.razee at fmglobal.com (Razee, Kenneth)
Date: Tue, 27 May 2008 10:45:27 -0400
Subject: [RASEY-DNA] New Member #110919, with results,
	desc/o Joseph RAZEE I
In-Reply-To: <002101c8bf09$b470c780$6401a8c0@HP>
References: <002101c8bf09$b470c780$6401a8c0@HP>
Message-ID: <F4BD679CD705F14E8D48281216CF365F014B99DB@JOHNEXCHP16.corp.fmglobal.com>

Diana, I was going through my father's tree that you have.  I can
clarify a few things.  My father Gerald Razee is the son of Earl Razee
and Mildred Razee, maiden name Greene.  She did die in Ohio and is
buried there.  She was my grandmother.  My uncle, Earl and Mildred's
other son, is named Elwin, not Edwin and he lives in Florida.  He did
not have any sons, but did have 3 daughters.  Dad, can you add to this.
There is no definite date on what year your parents were married or when
Uncle El was born nor his middle name.

Thanks,

Ken 

Kenneth Razee
Premium Collections & Ceded Reinsurance Manager
Bus. +1 (1) 401 275 3000 ext 1530
Fax  +1 (1) 401 275 0688
Cell +1 (1)  401 374 9352
e-mail - kenneth.razee at fmglobal.com


-----Original Message-----
From: rasey-dna-bounces at dgmweb.net [mailto:rasey-dna-bounces at dgmweb.net]
On Behalf Of Diana Gale Matthiesen
Sent: Monday, May 26, 2008 4:23 AM
To: RASEY-DNA at dgmweb.net
Subject: [RASEY-DNA] New Member #110919, with results, desc/o Joseph
RAZEE I

Hello List,

First, I would like to apologize for my recent absence in managing the
list.
Illness and a death in the family put genealogy on the back burner for
several
months, but now I'm back home in Florida and, finally, getting caught
up.  So, I
hope our newest member will forgive me for not annoucing him at the time
he
joined or when his results first came in -- of course, he has known the
results
of his testing, even if the rest of you haven't.

Our new member is #110919, a descendant of Joseph RAZEE I.  He is a
35/37 match
(genetic distance of 3) with #70816, the previously tested descendant of
Joseph
RAZEE I.  Their three differences are all on fast-mutating markers, so
this
level of matching is consistent with the two of them having a near
common
ancestor:

http://dgmweb.net/genealogy/DNA/Rasey/RaseyDNA-results.shtml#I2b1

Now that we have two descendants of Joseph RAZEE I tested, ones who
descend from
Joseph through different sons, we can rest assured that neither
individual has
an NPE (a "non-paternal event," e.g., a hidden adoption or illicit
paternity) in
his patrilineal line.  (We still don't have a second descendant of
Joseph RASEY
I tested, so there is still an outside chance that the one we do have
tested
could have an NPE.)

You will undoubtedly notice the change in haplogroup designation, from
I1b2a
(old I1c) to I2b1.  On 5 May 2008, the International Society of Genetic
Genealogy (ISOGG) and FamilyTreeDNA released a long-awaited revision of
the
Y-DNA haplotree.  This revision was necessitated by the many new SNP
mutations
discovered since FTDNA last published their Y-Hap tree in 2005.  I'm
afraid we
will all just have to get used to the new designations, and I'm also
afraid
we'll have to do it again when the haplotree is revised again -- such is
the
nature of a new science that keeps evolving (pun intended).

I recommend that our new member upload his results to Ysearch.  This can
be done
from the "Y-DNA Matches" tab on your member page.

Thank you for joining, and thank you for your patience.

Diana

_______________________________________________
RASEY-DNA mailing list
RASEY-DNA at dgmweb.net
http://four.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/rasey-dna

From kenneth.razee at fmglobal.com  Wed May 28 10:00:46 2008
From: kenneth.razee at fmglobal.com (Razee, Kenneth)
Date: Wed, 28 May 2008 10:00:46 -0400
Subject: [RASEY-DNA] FW:  New Member #110919, with results,
	desc/o Joseph RAZEE I
Message-ID: <F4BD679CD705F14E8D48281216CF365F014FB36F@JOHNEXCHP16.corp.fmglobal.com>

Diana, FYI.

Thanks,

Ken 

Kenneth Razee
Premium Collections & Ceded Reinsurance Manager
Bus. +1 (1) 401 275 3000 ext 1530
Fax  +1 (1) 401 275 0688
Cell +1 (1)  401 374 9352
e-mail - kenneth.razee at fmglobal.com

-----Original Message-----
From: Gerald Razee [mailto:grazee at verizon.net] 
Sent: Tuesday, May 27, 2008 9:14 PM
To: Razee, Kenneth
Subject: Re: [RASEY-DNA] New Member #110919, with results, desc/o Joseph
RAZEE I

Ken: Didn't find Diana's questions so am guessing what info you are
seeking. 
My parents were married in 1925. Brother, Elwin was born on 10/25/1925.
His 
middle name is Earl, after our Father. If you need any more info, let me

know. Dad
----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Razee, Kenneth" <kenneth.razee at fmglobal.com>
To: <rasey-dna at dgmweb.net>
Cc: <grazee at verizon.net>
Sent: Tuesday, May 27, 2008 10:45 AM
Subject: RE: [RASEY-DNA] New Member #110919, with results, desc/o Joseph

RAZEE I


Diana, I was going through my father's tree that you have.  I can
clarify a few things.  My father Gerald Razee is the son of Earl Razee
and Mildred Razee, maiden name Greene.  She did die in Ohio and is
buried there.  She was my grandmother.  My uncle, Earl and Mildred's
other son, is named Elwin, not Edwin and he lives in Florida.  He did
not have any sons, but did have 3 daughters.  Dad, can you add to this.
There is no definite date on what year your parents were married or when
Uncle El was born nor his middle name.

Thanks,

Ken

Kenneth Razee
Premium Collections & Ceded Reinsurance Manager
Bus. +1 (1) 401 275 3000 ext 1530
Fax  +1 (1) 401 275 0688
Cell +1 (1)  401 374 9352
e-mail - kenneth.razee at fmglobal.com


-----Original Message-----
From: rasey-dna-bounces at dgmweb.net [mailto:rasey-dna-bounces at dgmweb.net]
On Behalf Of Diana Gale Matthiesen
Sent: Monday, May 26, 2008 4:23 AM
To: RASEY-DNA at dgmweb.net
Subject: [RASEY-DNA] New Member #110919, with results, desc/o Joseph
RAZEE I

Hello List,

First, I would like to apologize for my recent absence in managing the
list.
Illness and a death in the family put genealogy on the back burner for
several
months, but now I'm back home in Florida and, finally, getting caught
up.  So, I
hope our newest member will forgive me for not annoucing him at the time
he
joined or when his results first came in -- of course, he has known the
results
of his testing, even if the rest of you haven't.

Our new member is #110919, a descendant of Joseph RAZEE I.  He is a
35/37 match
(genetic distance of 3) with #70816, the previously tested descendant of
Joseph
RAZEE I.  Their three differences are all on fast-mutating markers, so
this
level of matching is consistent with the two of them having a near
common
ancestor:

http://dgmweb.net/genealogy/DNA/Rasey/RaseyDNA-results.shtml#I2b1

Now that we have two descendants of Joseph RAZEE I tested, ones who
descend from
Joseph through different sons, we can rest assured that neither
individual has
an NPE (a "non-paternal event," e.g., a hidden adoption or illicit
paternity) in
his patrilineal line.  (We still don't have a second descendant of
Joseph RASEY
I tested, so there is still an outside chance that the one we do have
tested
could have an NPE.)

You will undoubtedly notice the change in haplogroup designation, from
I1b2a
(old I1c) to I2b1.  On 5 May 2008, the International Society of Genetic
Genealogy (ISOGG) and FamilyTreeDNA released a long-awaited revision of
the
Y-DNA haplotree.  This revision was necessitated by the many new SNP
mutations
discovered since FTDNA last published their Y-Hap tree in 2005.  I'm
afraid we
will all just have to get used to the new designations, and I'm also
afraid
we'll have to do it again when the haplotree is revised again -- such is
the
nature of a new science that keeps evolving (pun intended).

I recommend that our new member upload his results to Ysearch.  This can
be done
from the "Y-DNA Matches" tab on your member page.

Thank you for joining, and thank you for your patience.

Diana

_______________________________________________
RASEY-DNA mailing list
RASEY-DNA at dgmweb.net
http://four.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/rasey-dna


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From DianaGM at dgmweb.net  Sat May 31 11:20:36 2008
From: DianaGM at dgmweb.net (Diana Gale Matthiesen)
Date: Sat, 31 May 2008 11:20:36 -0400
Subject: [RASEY-DNA] New Member #110919, with results,
	desc/o Joseph RAZEE I
In-Reply-To: <4ebc9a870805260530o1f093aafu86bea45e8b63ebff@mail.gmail.com>
References: <002101c8bf09$b470c780$6401a8c0@HP>
	<4ebc9a870805260530o1f093aafu86bea45e8b63ebff@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <01bb01c8c331$e096c450$6401a8c0@HP>

That's very generous of you, Jim.  I really appreciate it.  Now if only we can
get a taker!

Diana 

> -----Original Message-----
> From: rasey-dna-bounces at dgmweb.net On Behalf Of Jim Tyler
> Sent: Monday, May 26, 2008 8:31 AM
> To: rasey-dna at dgmweb.net
> Subject: Re: [RASEY-DNA] New Member #110919, with 
> results,desc/o Joseph RAZEE I
> 
> Hi Diana,
> My condolences on your family loss.
> Perhaps it is time to underwrite another test of of a Joseph
> RASEY descendant. To that I extent I will subscribe to the 12 
> marker test of
> a volunteer.
> Maybe some folks are put out by the results of Duane's test and are
> reluctant to know the truth. We should mention that they 
> receive a neat
> certificate of their haplotype group. I will leave it up to 
> you to post to
> the RASEY Rootsweb letter.
> Enjoy the holiday,
> Jim
>


From DianaGM at dgmweb.net  Sat May 31 18:27:17 2008
From: DianaGM at dgmweb.net (Diana Gale Matthiesen)
Date: Sat, 31 May 2008 18:27:17 -0400
Subject: [RASEY-DNA] desc/o Joseph RAZEE I
In-Reply-To: <F4BD679CD705F14E8D48281216CF365F014FB36F@JOHNEXCHP16.corp.fmglobal.com>
References: <F4BD679CD705F14E8D48281216CF365F014FB36F@JOHNEXCHP16.corp.fmglobal.com>
Message-ID: <002201c8c36d$7c656310$6401a8c0@HP>

Thank you for the added information, Ken.  I have incorporated into their web
pages.

Diana 

> -----Original Message-----
> From: rasey-dna-bounces at dgmweb.net On Behalf Of Razee, Kenneth
> Sent: Wednesday, May 28, 2008 10:01 AM
> To: rasey-dna at dgmweb.net
> Subject: [RASEY-DNA] FW: New Member #110919, with results,desc/o Joseph RAZEE
I
> 
> Diana, FYI.
> 
> Thanks,
> 
> Ken 
> 
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Gerald Razee 
> Sent: Tuesday, May 27, 2008 9:14 PM
> To: Razee, Kenneth
> Subject: Re: [RASEY-DNA] New Member #110919, with results, desc/o Joseph RAZEE
I
> 
> Ken: Didn't find Diana's questions so am guessing what info you are
> seeking. My parents were married in 1925. Brother, Elwin was born on 
> 10/25/1925. His middle name is Earl, after our Father. If you need any more 
> info, let me know. Dad
>
> ----- Original Message ----- 
> From: "Razee, Kenneth"
> To: <rasey-dna at dgmweb.net>
> Sent: Tuesday, May 27, 2008 10:45 AM
> Subject: RE: [RASEY-DNA] New Member #110919, with results, desc/o Joseph
> 
> RAZEE I
> 
> 
> Diana, I was going through my father's tree that you have.  I can
> clarify a few things.  My father Gerald Razee is the son of Earl Razee
> and Mildred Razee, maiden name Greene.  She did die in Ohio and is
> buried there.  She was my grandmother.  My uncle, Earl and Mildred's
> other son, is named Elwin, not Edwin and he lives in Florida.  He did
> not have any sons, but did have 3 daughters.  Dad, can you 
> add to this. There is no definite date on what year your parents were 
> married or when Uncle El was born nor his middle name.
> 
> Thanks,
> 
> Ken
>