[Scons-users] SCons as a library

[Matias Iturburu]

2013/10/11 Bill Deegan <bill at baddogconsulting.com>


> Matias,

>

> After a brief look at your code and builders, I think you've not really

> grasped how builders should work in SCons.

>

> If you're using subprocess in a builder, you are likely doing something

> wrong.

>


Yeah, I feel the smell. It's the main argument in favor of a major refactor
of fbuild.



>

> I suggest you read the following: http://www.scons.org/wiki/ToolsForFools

>


Really interesting. Thanks for the pointer.



>

>

> Hope this helps,

> Bill

>

>

>

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> On Thu, Oct 10, 2013 at 11:30 PM, Bill Deegan <bill at baddogconsulting.com>wrote:

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>> On Wed, Oct 9, 2013 at 10:30 PM, Matias Iturburu <

>> matias.iturburu at tallertechnologies.com> wrote:

>>

>>>  On 09.10.2013 16:36, Matias Iturburu wrote:

>>>>>

>>>>>> Hello list.

>>>>>>

>>>>>> At work I'm maintaining a build tool based on SCons, fudepan-build (

>>>>>> https://code.google.com/p/**fudepan-build/<https://code.google.com/p/fudepan-build/>

>>>>>> ).

>>>>>> It's been used quite a lot for a number of projects and every project

>>>>>> in FuDePAN (http://fudepan.org.ar/).

>>>>>>

>>>>>> The tool has grown over the years and itself has its number of design

>>>>>> mistakes sort of defeating the purpose of using SCons.

>>>>>>

>>>>>> [...]

>>>>>>

>>>>>> Do you guys knows of something that already does that? or some other

>>>>>> comment about the project?

>>>>>>

>>>>>>

>>>>> can you possibly tell which functionality exactly is missing in SCons,

>>>>> and that you have to add or provide with your own fudepan-build tool? Maybe

>>>>> it could be added to either SCons or Parts (Did you already have a look at

>>>>> the latter? Visit http://parts.tigris.org/ )...just as an idea.

>>>>>

>>>>>

>>>> Haven't seen Parts. Really interesting.

>>>>

>>>> I think is not a matter of things that are missing in SCons as much as

>>>> things that SCons should not be doing, like checking out my or my

>>>> organization's) project from its repo, running unittests or coverage

>>>> metrics against my project, running static analysis tools. Actions that

>>>> doesn't have to do with actually building the project but with giving new

>>>> members a faster ramp up and formalizing the organization workflow.

>>>>

>>>>

>>>>

>>>> Not sure why you think that SCons should not be doing those tasks.

>>>>

>>>

>> Any comment on this question?

>>

>>

>>

>>>  Many users have added such logic to their SCons implementation with

>>>> great success.

>>>>

>>>

>>> Can you point me to some example? You are talking about in a forks? I

>>> don't want to maintain my own SCons version...

>>>

>>

>> No I am not talking about a fork.

>> Take a look here: http://www.scons.org/wiki/SconsRecipes#Testing

>> There are many examples of builders for running various tools there. None

>> of which require forking SCons.

>>

>>

>>

>>>

>>>

>>>> It's likely that you just don't want SCons to do those items by default

>>>> (without explicitly asking for them to be run).

>>>>

>>>

>>>  Right.

>>> For instance. In fudepan, fbuild keeps track of the fundation's

>>> projects, so any newcomer can download fbuild and say *fbuild targets*and it will list the projects available to him, he can then download it

>>> with *fbuild myproject:checkout* and run its unittests with *fbuild

>>> myproject:test* and so on...

>>>

>>

>> Still not sure why you can't do this with vanilla SCons and some of your

>> own builders.

>> And perhaps a few aliases..

>>

>> -Bill

>>

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