[kj] OT: The great Punk Debate

[culturevirus]

While I think that all "popular music" is nothing more
than the standing on the shoulders of a previous
generations giants, I've got to side with Alex on this
one. I must remind Rob that all the nihlism and up
yours attitude necessary can be found on the first
Ramones album.  A quick look at the song titles
reveals the following: "Beat on the Brat", "Judy is a
Punk" "Now I Wanna Sniff Some Glue", "Loudmouth" and
more. Enough teen angst for the rest of the 70's, the
Pistols didn't even need to attend the decade.
--- Alexander Smith <vassifer at earthlink.net> wrote:

> 
> "I have always seen the Ramones as an update of the
> 60's garage bands.  
> Great pop songs but never what I would term "punk"."
> 
> ROB, MY BLOOD IS BOILING. I'M GOING TO FLY OVER TO
> ENGLAND AND KILL YOU  
> AND BUILD A HOVERCRAFT WITH YOUR BONES AND SAIL BACK
> TO THE STATES ON  
> IT.
> 
> ALEX IN NYC..HELL BENT ON HOMICIDE
> 
> 
> 
> On Sunday, October 17, 2004, at 05:10 PM, Rob's Arse
> wrote:
> 
> >
> > That's a good point Peter.
> >
> > I have teased Alex for ages about this, but I have
> always viewed the  
> > Dolls as Glam. Trashy, yes but Glam.
> >
> > I have always seen the Ramones as an update of the
> 60's garage bands.  
> > Great pop songs but never what I would term
> "punk".
> >
> > Punk is much more than the music. I love the
> nihilism of the Pistols  
> > and the general "up yours" attitude. The WHY?
> That's why I belive that  
> > Punk is English.
> >
> > You American guys had a good go though. Full marks
> for effort lads ;-)



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