[kj] OT: The great Punk Debate culture theives read ; >

[Ketracel White]

>From AMG (All Music Guide):

"The Ramones are the first punk rock band. Other bands, such as the Stooges
and the New York Dolls, came before them and set the stage and aesthetic for
punk, and bands that immediately followed, such as the Sex Pistols, made the
latent violence of the music more explicit, but the Ramones crystallized the
musical ideals of the genre."

God Bless America.
-KW

----- Original Message -----
From: "Matthew Burke" <marsboy1 at msn.com>
To: <gathering at misera.net>
Sent: Monday, October 18, 2004 1:31 PM
Subject: Re: [kj] OT: The great Punk Debate culture theives read ; >


> Louis Armstrong also invented the Big Mac, and would have approved of
> pre-emptive wars.
>
> New Rose and Blitzkrieg Bop were both released in 1976.  Are we counting
> months, or is there some secret knowledge I'm not aware of?
>
> There is also a question as to whether Patti Smith's 'Hey Joe' was the
first
> punk single, released in 1974.
>
> Other instances of a lack of American culture:
>
> Blues
> Jazz
> Twain
> Kerouac
> Pollock
> Frank Lloyd Wright
>
>
> >From: "peter.west410" <peter.west410 at ntlworld.com>
> >Reply-To: "A list about all things Killing Joke (the band!)"
> ><gathering at misera.net>
> >To: "A list about all things Killing Joke (the band!)"
> ><gathering at misera.net>
> >Subject: Re: [kj] OT: The great Punk Debate culture theives read ; >
> >Date: Mon, 18 Oct 2004 18:51:37 +0100
> >
> >Yes Im sure they were .Like the Ramones ,There are many bands and persons
> >who have been an influence.
> >      But like the time Louie Armstrong landed on the moon and planted
the
> >stars and stripes and thus claiming a first for America,The Damned's New
> >Rose single was the first Punk singles and thus claiming punk for
England.
> >JUST BECAUSE YOU GOT NO CULTURE OF YOUR OWN,STOP TRYING TO STEAL OURS.
> >
> >(Has Rowland Rat gone yet?)
> >
> >  PW
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >----- Original Message -----
> >From: "Tim Bucknall" <tim.bucknall at btinternet.com>
> >To: "A list about all things Killing Joke (the band!)"
> ><gathering at misera.net>
> >Sent: Monday, October 18, 2004 6:30 PM
> >Subject: Re: [kj] OT: The great Punk Debate tea sippers read ; >
> >
> >
> > > ----- Original Message -----
> > > From: "Matthew Burke" <marsboy1 at msn.com>
> > > To: <gathering at misera.net>
> > > Sent: Monday, October 18, 2004 7:28 AM
> > > Subject: Re: [kj] OT: The great Punk Debate tea sippers read ; >
> > >
> > > > And here's a new twist in favor of the tea sippers, I believe that
> > > somehow,
> > > > some way, The Who were also a big influence on punk rock.
> > > >
> > >
> > > absolutely no doubt about it
> > >
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