[kj] OT: The great Punk Debate culture theives read ; >

[Tim Bucknall]

The pistols weren't influenced by the ramones at all
Sid Vicious liked them, but by the time he joined the pistols it was all
over

to Quote Glenn Matlock " we thought of them as more of a comedy band"

----- Original Message -----
From: "Ketracel White" <ketracelwhite at hotmail.com>
To: "A list about all things Killing Joke (the band!)"
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> >From AMG (All Music Guide):
>
> "The Ramones are the first punk rock band. Other bands, such as the
Stooges
> and the New York Dolls, came before them and set the stage and aesthetic
for
> punk, and bands that immediately followed, such as the Sex Pistols, made
the
> latent violence of the music more explicit, but the Ramones crystallized
the
> musical ideals of the genre."
>
> God Bless America.
> -KW
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Matthew Burke" <marsboy1 at msn.com>
> To: <gathering at misera.net>
> Sent: Monday, October 18, 2004 1:31 PM
> Subject: Re: [kj] OT: The great Punk Debate culture theives read ; >
>
>
> > Louis Armstrong also invented the Big Mac, and would have approved of
> > pre-emptive wars.
> >
> > New Rose and Blitzkrieg Bop were both released in 1976.  Are we counting
> > months, or is there some secret knowledge I'm not aware of?
> >
> > There is also a question as to whether Patti Smith's 'Hey Joe' was the
> first
> > punk single, released in 1974.
> >
> > Other instances of a lack of American culture:
> >
> > Blues
> > Jazz
> > Twain
> > Kerouac
> > Pollock
> > Frank Lloyd Wright
> >
> >
> > >From: "peter.west410" <peter.west410 at ntlworld.com>
> > >Reply-To: "A list about all things Killing Joke (the band!)"
> > ><gathering at misera.net>
> > >To: "A list about all things Killing Joke (the band!)"
> > ><gathering at misera.net>
> > >Subject: Re: [kj] OT: The great Punk Debate culture theives read ; >
> > >Date: Mon, 18 Oct 2004 18:51:37 +0100
> > >
> > >Yes Im sure they were .Like the Ramones ,There are many bands and
persons
> > >who have been an influence.
> > >      But like the time Louie Armstrong landed on the moon and planted
> the
> > >stars and stripes and thus claiming a first for America,The Damned's
New
> > >Rose single was the first Punk singles and thus claiming punk for
> England.
> > >JUST BECAUSE YOU GOT NO CULTURE OF YOUR OWN,STOP TRYING TO STEAL OURS.
> > >
> > >(Has Rowland Rat gone yet?)
> > >
> > >  PW
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >----- Original Message -----
> > >From: "Tim Bucknall" <tim.bucknall at btinternet.com>
> > >To: "A list about all things Killing Joke (the band!)"
> > ><gathering at misera.net>
> > >Sent: Monday, October 18, 2004 6:30 PM
> > >Subject: Re: [kj] OT: The great Punk Debate tea sippers read ; >
> > >
> > >
> > > > ----- Original Message -----
> > > > From: "Matthew Burke" <marsboy1 at msn.com>
> > > > To: <gathering at misera.net>
> > > > Sent: Monday, October 18, 2004 7:28 AM
> > > > Subject: Re: [kj] OT: The great Punk Debate tea sippers read ; >
> > > >
> > > > > And here's a new twist in favor of the tea sippers, I believe that
> > > > somehow,
> > > > > some way, The Who were also a big influence on punk rock.
> > > > >
> > > >
> > > > absolutely no doubt about it
> > > >
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