[kj] best venue - Pink Military

Sun Apr 24 06:30:58 EDT 2005

Now you mention the full line up of that gig - I do remember it. They
had a habit of having quite weird incongruous line ups at the Lyceum. I
dont know how they did it. Some times there was a theme like bands on
the same record label - like Some Bizarre Records with Soft Cell amongst
others.

juliet

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From: gathering-bounces at misera.net [mailto:gathering-bounces at misera.net]
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Sent: 24 April 2005 11:23
To: A list about all things Killing Joke (the band!)
Subject: RE: [kj] best venue - Pink Military

Mel - here you go - this was on the Mojo forum.
Mentions that KJ did support them, but that after KJ
finished playing most of the crowd left. Quite
interesting history if you like that sort of thing -
an early bassist was Holly Johnson from Frankie GTH.
N

Pink Military - formed 1978, feat; Jayne Casey (voc)
(ex Big in Japan), Martin Dempsey (bass) (ex Yachts
later of It's Immaterial), Nicky Cool (gtr), Charlie
Gruff Griffiths (bass) (ex Next, later of Wah! Heat),
Chris Joyce (drms) (later Simply Red), Neil Innes
(perc). Released 2 singles: Blood & Lipstick (1979),
Did You See Her (1980). An LP the same year 'Do
Animals Believe in God'.

Originally called Pink Military Stands Alone. Colm
Redmond (ex Wah! Heat, Psycamesh) joined just as they
were about to close down while Jayne had her baby, and
played on what proved to be their final gigs - one at
Brady's and one headlining at the Lyceum in London.
There was then a series of recording sessions at SOS
and Pennine, none of which was ever released. For
these Chris Joyce (later of Simply Red), who played on
the album, returned on drums; after Dave Baynton-Power
(later James) had replaced him for their tour, Martin
Dempsey had left by then and someone called Dave was
playing bass.

There were at least 3 further versions. At one stage,
when Jayne had formed what became Pink Industry with
Ambrose Reynolds (ex-Walkie Talkies etc etc), Colm and
John got together with them a few times to try to
write songs for a final PM release, but nothing was
recorded. Then Jayne and John did several days of
sessions at Amazon with a variety of musicians they
hadn't used before incl extraordinary guitar by Will
Sergeant on one track, & Mike Keane (Royal Family &
The Poor). Again nothing was released. And between the
PMSA version and the version that recorded the album
there was one feat Roy White (gtr), Steve Torch (bass)
and an American drummer (name?), which played live and
recorded the Blood & Lipstick 12".

When PM headlined at the Lyceum (5/10/80) the rest of
the bill was Killing Joke, Wah!, Lilliput and the
Comsat Angels. But after KJ finished much of the crowd
went home.
The band also had Peter Lloyd as bassist from
Feb79-Nov79. This is his story…

’The Pink Military time I had was magnificent. I saw
them at an Eric’s Matinee when I was 16, and thought
their bass player, Wayne Waddell, was shite. He was
obviously on something, and was sort of New York Dolls
looking, but hopeless, so when I saw an ad in Probe
for an audition, I skived off school, went to 8 Ullett
Road and rehearsed with the band. Got the job and
played in Manchester (The Factory) on 14.2.79 as my
first gig, leaving school that day (I had lied to
Jayne Casey about my age).’

‘By the time I joined them, Holly Johnson (soon to be
Frankie GTH) was their fill-in bass player and I
usurped him, which, bearing in mind by this time we
were both working in Erics, was awkward. I think he
even took back his bass guitar which I was using. We
shared 8 Ullett Road with Teardrop Explodes and Echo
and the Bunnymen. I vividly recall an old woman
neighbour one time come round one autumnal afternoon,
to complain about the noise (last time I checked - 5
years ago - the old rehearsal studio had been
converted into a flat. As I stood there looking like a
stalker, I wondered if the owner knew what history was
in that flat).’

Peter went onto play for Nightmares In Wax & now lives
in Thailand as a real estate lawyer.

Pink Industry followed the split of Pink Military and
was just Jayne Casey and Ambrose Reynolds and Tadzio.
They had the first release on Zulu Records 'Is This
The End/47/Don't Let Go/Final Cry' ZULU-1 a 12' EP in
Feb 1982. Zulu were based above a shop in Bold Street

This was followed by the truly wonderful (even now
20yrs later) album 'Low Technology' ZULU#2 which got a
4 star review in Sounds at the time.

This was followed by the 12' 'New Beginning's"

The album 'Who Told You, You Were Naked' followed and
was the groups last release.

A compilation album came out 'Cathexis Recordings' on
the Cathexis Recordings label9Based in Glasgow) in
1988 CRL 18 - though due to poor distribution was not
easy to get hold of. This was re-released in 1990/91
on CD, titled 'Retrospective', came out on the Parade
Amoreuse label which was based (I think) in
Belgium...odd label that also put out stuff by
Nocturnal Emissions and Muslimgauze.

Another CD comp came out on another European label New
Naked Technology (Compilation CD) (Cri Du Chat Disques
1995)

A fan web site for Pink Military/Industry exists with
MP3 samples go to www.acromar.demon.co.uk/pink.htm

Nicky Hilton from PM is now known as Nicky Tuit and
works in Film and TV music.

On a personal point Pink Industry were one of the
finest bands ever to emerge from the L'Pool punk
scene, a band that never received the credit they were
due. Perhaps the finest was 'Low Technology' and the
track 'Don't Let Go' I did once write to Jayne to
enquire as to who holds the rights to the material,
but I never got a reply. Maybe she doesn't want it to
be available - who knows? If anyone ever see's any of
their stuff - buy it! The owner/buyer at Hairy Records
in Bold St offered serious money for mine - but he
aint gettin' it!

Ambrose Reynolds - Released the mimi LP (The World's)
Greatest Hits' on Zulu ZULU#3, this was a vinyl
release of the tape first put out by M'Chester based
New Hormones Records in 1982

see http://www.link2wales.co.uk/lpool/pink.htm 

N

--- melinda grant <hollytree1961 at hotmail.com> wrote: 
> juliet,.........did u see k.j. supporting a band
> called ..pink milatary at 
> the lyceum,i am sure that was on a sunday,either
> 80/81? i had forgot about 
> the bands that played all day on a sundays at that
> venue,u brought that fine 
> detail from the past bak to me,any way,i am sure the
> band was called pink 
> military,will have to dig out my old tickets to chek
> that-----talking of 
> reading,i saw the joke at"reading top rank suite in
> 81,were u at that gig 
> also? it was very memorable with dave the
> wizard/plus his dog,doing more 
> than usual in the blessing of the stage 4
> k.j./ritual--i remember being 
> blown away by the whole event--
> so u got up on the stage then,at reading/i have only
> done that once,the 
> bloody stage was so high,that it took 3 people to
> give me a hand,iwas 
> talking to jaz whilst up there, these bouncers
> jumped in to get me of the 
> stage,but jaz grabbed me,very tightly,so that the
> bouncers attemp to pull me 
> of stage failed,i also had a very good view,both of
> the audience,and of jaz, 
> lol.....
> 
>     mel london uk.
> 
> >From: "Juliet Pleming" <pricepleming at tiscali.co.uk>
> >Reply-To: "A list about all things Killing Joke
> (the band!)" 
> ><gathering at misera.net>
> >To: "'A list about all things Killing Joke (the
> band!)'" 
> ><gathering at misera.net>
> >Subject: RE: [kj] best venue
> >Date: Sat, 23 Apr 2005 15:06:28 +0100
> >
> >Mind you my best time seeing Killing Joke was at
> Reading. At the place
> >right next to the train station. The target? But
> that's cos I somehow
> >managed to get right up on the stage crammed up in
> front of Jaz on his
> >synth, so I had a pretty good view.
> >
> >-----Original Message-----
> >From: gathering-bounces at misera.net
> [mailto:gathering-bounces at misera.net]
> >On Behalf Of Juliet Pleming
> >Sent: 23 April 2005 15:03
> >To: 'A list about all things Killing Joke (the
> band!)'
> >Subject: RE: [kj] best venue
> >
> >I also liked the lyceum very much. Lots of good
> memories of going there.
> >They used to have those 7-bands-in-a-row things
> starting in the
> >afternoon on Sundays.
> >
> >juliet
> >
> >-----Original Message-----
> >From: gathering-bounces at misera.net
> [mailto:gathering-bounces at misera.net]
> >On Behalf Of melinda grant
> >Sent: 23 April 2005 14:30
> >To: gathering at misera.net
> >Subject: RE: [kj] best venue
> >
> >i very much like the ..lycium venue-along the
> strand-ldn-although k.j
> >have
> >not played there in yrs,i do
> >remember early 80s gigs at the venue being very
> good,acustic
> >wise,size,location ect,they r very fond memories of
> k.j gigs 4 me..
> >
> >mel  london  uk
> >
> > >From: "god botherer" <acroastic at hotmail.com>
> > >Reply-To: "A list about all things Killing Joke
> (the band!)"
> > ><gathering at misera.net>
> > >To: gathering at misera.net
> > >Subject: [kj] best venue
> > >Date: Sat, 23 Apr 2005 12:49:59 +0100
> > >
> > >Old Hammersmith Palais
> > >
> > >>From: "jon chapman"
> <jonniespatula at hotmail.co.uk>
> > >
> > >>
> > >>i thought the venue was a bit of a letdown,so it
> got me wondering,what
> >is
> > >>the best venue killing joke have played in,in
> london/uk???
> > >>
> > >>spatula.
> > >>
> >
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