[kj] best venue - Pink Military

Sun Apr 24 13:56:05 EDT 2005

neil.....thanx 4 that article from mojo,yeah i dont mind a bit of 
history,exspecially when the history is part of my own life history,it is 
very strange 2 look bak at all sorts of events and think"at that time i 
really would not of thought that i would be doing the things that i am now 
doing,or still thinking the things that i felt strongly about over 25 yrs 
ago,having a more mature view point on all topics,but never the 
less,realising that the blueprint/underlying principle has stayed with me-- 
i am some what relieved that time has not converted me into a brain 
washed,manipulated being of society,like it has done with so many others,who 
felt strongly in there 20ies,but some how gave in to the rat-race of  
conventional life styles,one of the very things that they swore they would 
never become,i guess that they did not really believ in it all yrs ago,other 
wise they would of stood by it to this day...i suppose it is alot easier to 
follow the crowd,but i dont find any satisfaction in that,i have 2 be true 
to my self,other wise i feel that i am living a lie,and wheres the joy in 
that.......

   mel ldn  uk     ps,dont worry about yu age neil,we r all born at the 
right time to experience the things that we r suppost to  learn by,it all 
makes sence,i dont giv a toss about my age,if i had not been born when i 
was,i would of missed so much stuff,that in hind side large majority was/is 
compatable to my nature...i still hate convention,but thats another 
story....

mel  ldn  uk.
>From: Neil Perry <neilfperry at btinternet.com>
>Reply-To: "A list about all things Killing Joke (the band!)" 
><gathering at misera.net>
>To: "A list about all things Killing Joke (the band!)" 
><gathering at misera.net>
>Subject: RE: [kj] best venue - Pink Military
>Date: Sun, 24 Apr 2005 11:22:33 +0100 (BST)
>
>Mel - here you go - this was on the Mojo forum.
>Mentions that KJ did support them, but that after KJ
>finished playing most of the crowd left. Quite
>interesting history if you like that sort of thing -
>an early bassist was Holly Johnson from Frankie GTH.
>N
>
>Pink Military - formed 1978, feat; Jayne Casey (voc)
>(ex Big in Japan), Martin Dempsey (bass) (ex Yachts
>later of It's Immaterial), Nicky Cool (gtr), Charlie
>Gruff Griffiths (bass) (ex Next, later of Wah! Heat),
>Chris Joyce (drms) (later Simply Red), Neil Innes
>(perc). Released 2 singles: Blood & Lipstick (1979),
>Did You See Her (1980). An LP the same year 'Do
>Animals Believe in God'.
>
>Originally called Pink Military Stands Alone. Colm
>Redmond (ex Wah! Heat, Psycamesh) joined just as they
>were about to close down while Jayne had her baby, and
>played on what proved to be their final gigs - one at
>Brady's and one headlining at the Lyceum in London.
>There was then a series of recording sessions at SOS
>and Pennine, none of which was ever released. For
>these Chris Joyce (later of Simply Red), who played on
>the album, returned on drums; after Dave Baynton-Power
>(later James) had replaced him for their tour, Martin
>Dempsey had left by then and someone called Dave was
>playing bass.
>
>There were at least 3 further versions. At one stage,
>when Jayne had formed what became Pink Industry with
>Ambrose Reynolds (ex-Walkie Talkies etc etc), Colm and
>John got together with them a few times to try to
>write songs for a final PM release, but nothing was
>recorded. Then Jayne and John did several days of
>sessions at Amazon with a variety of musicians they
>hadn't used before incl extraordinary guitar by Will
>Sergeant on one track, & Mike Keane (Royal Family &
>The Poor). Again nothing was released. And between the
>PMSA version and the version that recorded the album
>there was one feat Roy White (gtr), Steve Torch (bass)
>and an American drummer (name?), which played live and
>recorded the Blood & Lipstick 12".
>
>When PM headlined at the Lyceum (5/10/80) the rest of
>the bill was Killing Joke, Wah!, Lilliput and the
>Comsat Angels. But after KJ finished much of the crowd
>went home.
>The band also had Peter Lloyd as bassist from
>Feb79-Nov79. This is his story…
>
>’The Pink Military time I had was magnificent. I saw
>them at an Eric’s Matinee when I was 16, and thought
>their bass player, Wayne Waddell, was shite. He was
>obviously on something, and was sort of New York Dolls
>looking, but hopeless, so when I saw an ad in Probe
>for an audition, I skived off school, went to 8 Ullett
>Road and rehearsed with the band. Got the job and
>played in Manchester (The Factory) on 14.2.79 as my
>first gig, leaving school that day (I had lied to
>Jayne Casey about my age).’
>
>‘By the time I joined them, Holly Johnson (soon to be
>Frankie GTH) was their fill-in bass player and I
>usurped him, which, bearing in mind by this time we
>were both working in Erics, was awkward. I think he
>even took back his bass guitar which I was using. We
>shared 8 Ullett Road with Teardrop Explodes and Echo
>and the Bunnymen. I vividly recall an old woman
>neighbour one time come round one autumnal afternoon,
>to complain about the noise (last time I checked - 5
>years ago - the old rehearsal studio had been
>converted into a flat. As I stood there looking like a
>stalker, I wondered if the owner knew what history was
>in that flat).’
>
>Peter went onto play for Nightmares In Wax & now lives
>in Thailand as a real estate lawyer.
>
>Pink Industry followed the split of Pink Military and
>was just Jayne Casey and Ambrose Reynolds and Tadzio.
>They had the first release on Zulu Records 'Is This
>The End/47/Don't Let Go/Final Cry' ZULU-1 a 12' EP in
>Feb 1982. Zulu were based above a shop in Bold Street
>
>This was followed by the truly wonderful (even now
>20yrs later) album 'Low Technology' ZULU#2 which got a
>4 star review in Sounds at the time.
>
>This was followed by the 12' 'New Beginning's"
>
>The album 'Who Told You, You Were Naked' followed and
>was the groups last release.
>
>A compilation album came out 'Cathexis Recordings' on
>the Cathexis Recordings label9Based in Glasgow) in
>1988 CRL 18 - though due to poor distribution was not
>easy to get hold of. This was re-released in 1990/91
>on CD, titled 'Retrospective', came out on the Parade
>Amoreuse label which was based (I think) in
>Belgium...odd label that also put out stuff by
>Nocturnal Emissions and Muslimgauze.
>
>Another CD comp came out on another European label New
>Naked Technology (Compilation CD) (Cri Du Chat Disques
>1995)
>
>A fan web site for Pink Military/Industry exists with
>MP3 samples go to www.acromar.demon.co.uk/pink.htm
>
>Nicky Hilton from PM is now known as Nicky Tuit and
>works in Film and TV music.
>
>On a personal point Pink Industry were one of the
>finest bands ever to emerge from the L'Pool punk
>scene, a band that never received the credit they were
>due. Perhaps the finest was 'Low Technology' and the
>track 'Don't Let Go' I did once write to Jayne to
>enquire as to who holds the rights to the material,
>but I never got a reply. Maybe she doesn't want it to
>be available - who knows? If anyone ever see's any of
>their stuff - buy it! The owner/buyer at Hairy Records
>in Bold St offered serious money for mine - but he
>aint gettin' it!
>
>Ambrose Reynolds - Released the mimi LP (The World's)
>Greatest Hits' on Zulu ZULU#3, this was a vinyl
>release of the tape first put out by M'Chester based
>New Hormones Records in 1982
>
>see http://www.link2wales.co.uk/lpool/pink.htm
>
>N
>
>--- melinda grant <hollytree1961 at hotmail.com> wrote:
> > juliet,.........did u see k.j. supporting a band
> > called ..pink milatary at
> > the lyceum,i am sure that was on a sunday,either
> > 80/81? i had forgot about
> > the bands that played all day on a sundays at that
> > venue,u brought that fine
> > detail from the past bak to me,any way,i am sure the
> > band was called pink
> > military,will have to dig out my old tickets to chek
> > that-----talking of
> > reading,i saw the joke at"reading top rank suite in
> > 81,were u at that gig
> > also? it was very memorable with dave the
> > wizard/plus his dog,doing more
> > than usual in the blessing of the stage 4
> > k.j./ritual--i remember being
> > blown away by the whole event--
> > so u got up on the stage then,at reading/i have only
> > done that once,the
> > bloody stage was so high,that it took 3 people to
> > give me a hand,iwas
> > talking to jaz whilst up there, these bouncers
> > jumped in to get me of the
> > stage,but jaz grabbed me,very tightly,so that the
> > bouncers attemp to pull me
> > of stage failed,i also had a very good view,both of
> > the audience,and of jaz,
> > lol.....
> >
> >     mel london uk.
> >
> > >From: "Juliet Pleming" <pricepleming at tiscali.co.uk>
> > >Reply-To: "A list about all things Killing Joke
> > (the band!)"
> > ><gathering at misera.net>
> > >To: "'A list about all things Killing Joke (the
> > band!)'"
> > ><gathering at misera.net>
> > >Subject: RE: [kj] best venue
> > >Date: Sat, 23 Apr 2005 15:06:28 +0100
> > >
> > >Mind you my best time seeing Killing Joke was at
> > Reading. At the place
> > >right next to the train station. The target? But
> > that's cos I somehow
> > >managed to get right up on the stage crammed up in
> > front of Jaz on his
> > >synth, so I had a pretty good view.
> > >
> > >-----Original Message-----
> > >From: gathering-bounces at misera.net
> > [mailto:gathering-bounces at misera.net]
> > >On Behalf Of Juliet Pleming
> > >Sent: 23 April 2005 15:03
> > >To: 'A list about all things Killing Joke (the
> > band!)'
> > >Subject: RE: [kj] best venue
> > >
> > >I also liked the lyceum very much. Lots of good
> > memories of going there.
> > >They used to have those 7-bands-in-a-row things
> > starting in the
> > >afternoon on Sundays.
> > >
> > >juliet
> > >
> > >-----Original Message-----
> > >From: gathering-bounces at misera.net
> > [mailto:gathering-bounces at misera.net]
> > >On Behalf Of melinda grant
> > >Sent: 23 April 2005 14:30
> > >To: gathering at misera.net
> > >Subject: RE: [kj] best venue
> > >
> > >i very much like the ..lycium venue-along the
> > strand-ldn-although k.j
> > >have
> > >not played there in yrs,i do
> > >remember early 80s gigs at the venue being very
> > good,acustic
> > >wise,size,location ect,they r very fond memories of
> > k.j gigs 4 me..
> > >
> > >mel  london  uk
> > >
> > > >From: "god botherer" <acroastic at hotmail.com>
> > > >Reply-To: "A list about all things Killing Joke
> > (the band!)"
> > > ><gathering at misera.net>
> > > >To: gathering at misera.net
> > > >Subject: [kj] best venue
> > > >Date: Sat, 23 Apr 2005 12:49:59 +0100
> > > >
> > > >Old Hammersmith Palais
> > > >
> > > >>From: "jon chapman"
> > <jonniespatula at hotmail.co.uk>
> > > >
> > > >>
> > > >>i thought the venue was a bit of a letdown,so it
> > got me wondering,what
> > >is
> > > >>the best venue killing joke have played in,in
> > london/uk???
> > > >>
> > > >>spatula.
> > > >>
> > >
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