[kj] etiquette

Sat Mar 19 20:10:32 EST 2005

Greyson started it..................................I ve got a feeling that
you dont care who started it,       But you cant blame me for replying to
someone whos trying to even further discredit my name ,by making false  and
damaging accusations.

        PW

----- Original Message -----
From: "Alexander Smith" <vassifer at earthlink.net>
To: "A list about all things Killing Joke (the band!)"
<gathering at misera.net>
Sent: Saturday, March 19, 2005 10:39 PM
Subject: Re: [kj] etiquette

>
> Stop all this bullshit, please. It's making this list fucking
> embarrassing.
>
>
>
> Alex in NYC
>
>
> On Saturday, March 19, 2005, at 05:06 PM, peter.west410 wrote:
>
> >
> >
> >> Hi, Paul--
> >>
> >> You and I are on GOOD terms, my friend.  You and I
> >> sorted things out ages and ages ago.
> >
> > ********Whooopeee.You ve both got a freind(each other)**********
> >
> >> I used the term "idiots" in the plural just in case
> >> there WAS more than just peter.west doing the multiple
> >> personalities to argue shite.  However, I find it
> >> interesting that as I never mentioned his actual NAME,
> >
> > *******Greyson,You were obviously referring to me,That was blatently
> > obvious***********
> >
> >
> > he continues to attack me.
> >
> > *******I ve mentioned your name twice in one year,And only as a
> > response to
> > you.I think "attack" is the wrong word......I mentioned you.When you
> > use the
> > word "Attack" in this instance,It devalues the word**********
> >
> >  Especially as my original
> >> complaint was about how he wastes everyone's time.
> >
> > *******So you understand that I was replying to you?********
> >
> >
> >
> >> And he is a waste of time.  I've had to block him
> >> personally on several occasions,
> >
> > *******Well you cant be doing it right,If you blocked me correctly,You
> > would
> > only have to do it once*********
> >
> >  because he simply
> >  won't stop.
> >  He's even brought my name up in other
> >  periods when I had not posted anything;
> >
> > ********Dont kid yourself that you are that important...............I
> > Dont
> > recall mentionning your name in other periods..............I even
> > forgot
> > that you were here*************
> >
> >
> >  there's
> >> something he's personally attaching to my name so that
> >> if he's worked up, I'm somehow involved.  Paranoid,
> >> maybe.
> >
> > **********Again ,Dont kid yourself.I thought that you left ages
> > ago.Paranoid
> > may be the correct word here,But not in the same sentence as
> > peter.west*******
> >
> >
> >
> >> Cheers, Paul--and thanks for contributing the vinyl to
> >> the Jester fundraiser.  I now own a lot of it!
> >>
> >> Oh, and I wasn't advocating we start a new list, I
> >> only meant we'd eventually have to find a new list
> >> once this one becomes befouled beyond all tolerance.
> >
> > *******To tell the truth Grey,No-one is really bothered in what you
> > were
> > advocating***********
> >
> > See you again .................next year
> >   PW
> >
> >
> >> Grey :)
> >>
> >>> Date: Sat, 19 Mar 2005 10:22:37 +0000
> >>> From: Paul Rangecroft <spud.u.hate at gmail.com>
> >>> Subject: Re: [kj] etiquette
> >>> To: gathering at misera.net
> >>> Message-ID:
> >>> <98abf93605031902226d1914ec at mail.gmail.com>
> >>> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1
> >>>
> >>> concerning recent events:
> >>>
> >>> firstly, i couldn't care less about PW using my
> >>> name. nobody thinks
> >>> it's me so what difference does it make if he posts
> >>> as me or as Peter
> >>> Pumpkinhead?
> >>>
> >>> starting a new list? i dunno. possibly this could
> >>> work. if people are
> >>> leaving then the argument about not wanting to
> >>> break-up the list
> >>> doesn't apply.
> >>>
> >>> look at it this way: if a group of friends who all
> >>> liked KJ were down
> >>> the pub (prop. A. Misera - bloody nice bloke with a
> >>> fine knowledge of
> >>> german beers), and one was a special needs child who
> >>> couldn't speak
> >>> english properly and keeps dribbling his shandy,
> >>> spitting crisps
> >>> everywhere and insulting people every time they open
> >>> their mouths, and
> >>> said retard was banned from the pub next door,
> >>> wouldn't they all just
> >>> go next door?
> >>>
> >>> the argument "there is one Killing Joke" wouldn't
> >>> make any sense. nor
> >>> would the free speech argument. "there can be only
> >>> one" seems to imply
> >>> a lack or perspective, like we are important or
> >>> intrinsically linked
> >>> with the band. we're not - just friends hanging out
> >>> and chatting. some
> >>> people only use the gathering message board and some
> >>> people only use
> >>> joe's boards so we don't even represent the entire
> >>> online community of
> >>> KJ fans.
> >>>
> >>> if i am resposible for people leaving the i
> >>> apologise. personally i
> >>> think peter west is the source of most of the
> >>> negativity here, which
> >>> is why i decided to tackle him (despite advising
> >>> people in the past to
> >>> just ignore him or block his account(s)!)  he
> >>> campions mik's cause for
> >>> promoting the band (though quite why someone who has
> >>> never heard of KJ
> >>> would be looking at his site is a mystery to me) but
> >>> he himself does
> >>> the exact opposite by continually driving people
> >>> away.
> >>>
> >>> i would be in favour of any method to get rid of
> >>> him. if someone wants
> >>> to start a new list, get colesy, iPat and everyone
> >>> else who has left
> >>> because of PW back on board then go for it. if
> >>> anyone has some
> >>> constructive criticism about my own behaviour i'm
> >>> all ears (i'm not
> >>> sure if greyson was referring to me below, the word
> >>> "idiots" (ie
> >>> plural) would seem to imply she is not just blaming
> >>> peter west).
> >>>
> >>> On Fri, 18 Mar 2005 03:33:29 -0500 (GMT-05:00), Alex
> >>> Smith
> >>> <vassifer at earthlink.net> wrote:
> >>>>
> >>>> With the utmost respect, Alexi my dear, NO NEW
> >>> LIST. NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO!
> >>>>
> >>>> There is one Killing Joke. As such there is one
> >>> Gathering. Let's try to keep it together, shall we?
> >>>>
> >>>> Alex in NYC
> >>>
> >>>> ----Original Message Follows----
> >>>>
> >>>> Basically, we'll all have to eventually leave The
> >>>> Gathering to the ill-intentioned and start another
> >>> one
> >>>> elsewhere!  (laughs)
> >>>>
> >>>> That's why I've lurked without commenting for
> >>> ages,
> >>>> but I'm about fed up with the multiple
> >>> personalities
> >>>> of certified idiots.
> >>>>
> >>>> Grey
> >>>
> >>>
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