[kj] etiquette

Leigh Newton angrytomhanks at yahoo.com
Sun Mar 20 03:16:32 EST 2005 

Jesus, Peter. i used to think your posts were funny
and your way of getting a rise out of people was at
least clever. But lately, you sound like such a whiny
little baby. Chopping up emails and rebuting to every
single sentence, God! Talk about embarassing. Grow
some balls, would you?

Leigh

--- "peter.west410" <peter.west410 at ntlworld.com>
wrote:

> Greyson started
> it..................................I ve got a
> feeling that
> you dont care who started it,       But you cant
> blame me for replying to
> someone whos trying to even further discredit my
> name ,by making false  and
> damaging accusations.
> 
>         PW
> 
> 
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Alexander Smith" <vassifer at earthlink.net>
> To: "A list about all things Killing Joke (the
> band!)"
> <gathering at misera.net>
> Sent: Saturday, March 19, 2005 10:39 PM
> Subject: Re: [kj] etiquette
> 
> 
> >
> > Stop all this bullshit, please. It's making this
> list fucking
> > embarrassing.
> >
> >
> >
> > Alex in NYC
> >
> >
> > On Saturday, March 19, 2005, at 05:06 PM,
> peter.west410 wrote:
> >
> > >
> > >
> > >> Hi, Paul--
> > >>
> > >> You and I are on GOOD terms, my friend.  You
> and I
> > >> sorted things out ages and ages ago.
> > >
> > > ********Whooopeee.You ve both got a freind(each
> other)**********
> > >
> > >> I used the term "idiots" in the plural just in
> case
> > >> there WAS more than just peter.west doing the
> multiple
> > >> personalities to argue shite.  However, I find
> it
> > >> interesting that as I never mentioned his
> actual NAME,
> > >
> > > *******Greyson,You were obviously referring to
> me,That was blatently
> > > obvious***********
> > >
> > >
> > > he continues to attack me.
> > >
> > > *******I ve mentioned your name twice in one
> year,And only as a
> > > response to
> > > you.I think "attack" is the wrong word......I
> mentioned you.When you
> > > use the
> > > word "Attack" in this instance,It devalues the
> word**********
> > >
> > >  Especially as my original
> > >> complaint was about how he wastes everyone's
> time.
> > >
> > > *******So you understand that I was replying to
> you?********
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >> And he is a waste of time.  I've had to block
> him
> > >> personally on several occasions,
> > >
> > > *******Well you cant be doing it right,If you
> blocked me correctly,You
> > > would
> > > only have to do it once*********
> > >
> > >  because he simply
> > >  won't stop.
> > >  He's even brought my name up in other
> > >  periods when I had not posted anything;
> > >
> > > ********Dont kid yourself that you are that
> important...............I
> > > Dont
> > > recall mentionning your name in other
> periods..............I even
> > > forgot
> > > that you were here*************
> > >
> > >
> > >  there's
> > >> something he's personally attaching to my name
> so that
> > >> if he's worked up, I'm somehow involved. 
> Paranoid,
> > >> maybe.
> > >
> > > **********Again ,Dont kid yourself.I thought
> that you left ages
> > > ago.Paranoid
> > > may be the correct word here,But not in the same
> sentence as
> > > peter.west*******
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >> Cheers, Paul--and thanks for contributing the
> vinyl to
> > >> the Jester fundraiser.  I now own a lot of it!
> > >>
> > >> Oh, and I wasn't advocating we start a new
> list, I
> > >> only meant we'd eventually have to find a new
> list
> > >> once this one becomes befouled beyond all
> tolerance.
> > >
> > > *******To tell the truth Grey,No-one is really
> bothered in what you
> > > were
> > > advocating***********
> > >
> > > See you again .................next year
> > >   PW
> > >
> > >
> > >> Grey :)
> > >>
> > >>> Date: Sat, 19 Mar 2005 10:22:37 +0000
> > >>> From: Paul Rangecroft <spud.u.hate at gmail.com>
> > >>> Subject: Re: [kj] etiquette
> > >>> To: gathering at misera.net
> > >>> Message-ID:
> > >>> <98abf93605031902226d1914ec at mail.gmail.com>
> > >>> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1
> > >>>
> > >>> concerning recent events:
> > >>>
> > >>> firstly, i couldn't care less about PW using
> my
> > >>> name. nobody thinks
> > >>> it's me so what difference does it make if he
> posts
> > >>> as me or as Peter
> > >>> Pumpkinhead?
> > >>>
> > >>> starting a new list? i dunno. possibly this
> could
> > >>> work. if people are
> > >>> leaving then the argument about not wanting to
> > >>> break-up the list
> > >>> doesn't apply.
> > >>>
> > >>> look at it this way: if a group of friends who
> all
> > >>> liked KJ were down
> > >>> the pub (prop. A. Misera - bloody nice bloke
> with a
> > >>> fine knowledge of
> > >>> german beers), and one was a special needs
> child who
> > >>> couldn't speak
> > >>> english properly and keeps dribbling his
> shandy,
> > >>> spitting crisps
> > >>> everywhere and insulting people every time
> they open
> > >>> their mouths, and
> > >>> said retard was banned from the pub next door,
> > >>> wouldn't they all just
> > >>> go next door?
> > >>>
> > >>> the argument "there is one Killing Joke"
> wouldn't
> > >>> make any sense. nor
> > >>> would the free speech argument. "there can be
> only
> > >>> one" seems to imply
> > >>> a lack or perspective, like we are important
> or
> > >>> intrinsically linked
> > >>> with the band. we're not - just friends
> hanging out
> > >>> and chatting. some
> > >>> people only use the gathering message board
> and some
> > >>> people only use
> > >>> joe's boards so we don't even represent the
> entire
> > >>> online community of
> > >>> KJ fans.
> > >>>
> > >>> if i am resposible for people leaving the i
> > >>> apologise. personally i
> > >>> think peter west is the source of most of the
> > >>> negativity here, which
> > >>> is why i decided to tackle him (despite
> advising
> > >>> people in the past to
> > >>> just ignore him or block his account(s)!)  he
> > >>> campions mik's cause for
> > >>> promoting the band (though quite why someone
> who has
> > >>> never heard of KJ
> > >>> would be looking at his site is a mystery to
> me) but
> > >>> he himself does
> > >>> the exact opposite by continually driving
> people
> > >>> away.
> > >>>
> > >>> i would be in favour of any method to get rid
> of
> > >>> him. if someone wants
> > >>> to start a new list, get colesy, iPat and
> everyone
> > >>> else who has left
> > >>> because of PW back on board then go for it. if
> > >>> anyone has some
> > >>> constructive criticism about my own behaviour
> i'm
> > >>> all ears (i'm not
> > >>> sure if greyson was referring to me below, the
> word
> > >>> "idiots" (ie
> > >>> plural) would seem to imply she is not just
> blaming
> > >>> peter west).
> > >>>
> > >>> On Fri, 18 Mar 2005 03:33:29 -0500
> (GMT-05:00), Alex
> > >>> Smith
> > >>> <vassifer at earthlink.net> wrote:
> > >>>>
> > >>>> With the utmost respect, Alexi my dear, NO
> NEW
> > >>> LIST. NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO!
> > >>>>
> > >>>> There is one Killing Joke. As such there is
> one
> > >>> Gathering. Let's try to keep it together,
> shall we?
> > >>>>
> > >>>> Alex in NYC
> > >>>
> > >>>> ----Original Message Follows----
> > >>>>
> > >>>> Basically, we'll all have to eventually leave
> The
> > >>>> Gathering to the ill-intentioned and start
> another
> > >>> one
> > >>>> elsewhere!  (laughs)
> > >>>>
> > >>>> That's why I've lurked without commenting for
> > >>> ages,
> > >>>> but I'm about fed up with the multiple
> > >>> personalities
> > >>>> of certified idiots.
> > >>>>
> > >>>> Grey
> > >>>
> > >>>
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