[kj] Gorgeous George/Mr. Peter West

[The Resistance]

I am inclined to partially agree with you - you cannot compare Bush or Blair 
to Milosevic for example; not yet anyway. Which is why I should imagine 
people are not officially calling him a war criminal. However I would like 
to see 'war criminal' defined by Amnesty International for example before I 
decide to bin it. Personally I was very unhappy about the war, still am and 
will shout about it whenever I can as a form of catharsis if nothing else. 
Blair has proved himself to be fraud through things like top up fees/PFI - 
the war was a stage to far.......and no liberal can ever forgive him for it.
 On stealth fascist crimes - this is an area I do not want to go on this 
list but I can give you an example of the sort of darkness we are talking 
about from before Blair:
 I have met a couple of SAS soldiers in my time. One had had to slit the 
throats of Argentinians in their sleep during the Falklands war. They would 
steal behind enemy lines and then slit the throats of one or two soldiers 
leaving the others to discover them in the morning. Horrible, but effective 
- as obviously the other soldiers would not sleep the next night or the next 
night etc.etc.
 Another ex SAS guy told me that when they were on the case of an IRA man 
and lost him they visited the terrorists wife and raped her anally until she 
told them where he was.
 Both cases can be justified on utilitarian grounds and nothing else - I 
suppose that every country needs an iron fist, just don't be fooled by the 
velvet glove that conceals it.
 

 On 5/18/05, peter.west410 <peter.west410 at ntlworld.com> wrote: 
> 
> "On election night I switched off the tv in disgust when a young woman was
> asked about the war and she replied "I find it really boring".
> 
> I really cannot understand that.A young woman stated that she found the 
> war
> boring,and it drove you to switch the TV off,I think you gave too much
> relevance to one persons views....Like,So what what she things.
> I cant believe that ONE persons opinion could have such an adverse
> effect on you. George Galloway is the one politician who I respect as a
> person,He doesn't feel the need to toe a party line ,or to spend his time
> kissing babies and smiling for the camera.
> Was the American government falsifying evidence against him?Were
> theytrying to discredit him just because he spoke out against them? Are 
> the
> American Government trying to quash anybody who opposes their actions?If 
> so
> it makes a mockery of the of claims that the Iraq war was in the name of
> Freedom and democracy.
> PW
> Response the "List cretin",below as requested
> 
> It was me.
> For a start Mr Annan did state that the war was illegal,But starting a
> war illegally doesnt make you a war criminal.And Mr Annan is/was the 
> headof
> the U.N . What right does this give him to make this ruling.You willsay
> that his status alone give s him the right to make that claim.But asGeorge
> and Tony occupy more senior roles than Mr Annan,Mr Annams views
> areirrelevant,if it comes down to status.Mr Annan has been over ruled.
> A War criminal is a leader who commits atrocities on a mass scale
> ,during the act of war.But to start a war illegally,doesnt actually make 
> you
> a warcriminal.So even if the war was illegal ,Its still wrong to label 
> them
> as war criminals.
> I really dont know if the war was illegal or not,and neither do you,So
> stop making false assumptions.
> And you are sure that Blair's responsible for "stealth fascist
> activities",which are out of the public view ,yet you cant name
> them...........But you are sure they are true anyway!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! (and
> you call me a cretin!!!!!!!!!!!)How can you say that someone is guilty of
> a (fascist)crime,yet you cant even name the crime.
> And just because I disagree with you ,You assume that my brain is
> full of endorphins,I eat hamburgers and I live in a shithole (without
> realising it)
> I fail to see the logic behind your reasoning.
> 
> PW
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