[kj] Jaz Straw

[flight Bringer]

No way do you work in a university , ............well maybe as a caretaker 
or his assistant. But in a teaching capacity ? No way .


>From: "Robert Mallett" <robert at jrcardwell.fsnet.co.uk>
>Reply-To: "A list about all things Killing Joke (the 
>band!)"<gathering at misera.net>
>To: "A list about all things Killing Joke (the band!)" 
><gathering at misera.net>
>Subject: Re: [kj] Jaz Straw
>Date: Thu, 12 Oct 2006 20:27:47 +0100
>
>Robert. I would say that Jack Straw and his constituents live and work
>together . I'm sure that they've put their Religious differences aside and
>work together for the common good . I have not seen the fact that he was
>Jewish mentioned anywhere , infact I did nt even know until you mentioned 
>it
>..
>  Jews and Muslims (generally) all live and work together in the UK .
>Discrimination is illegal in this country
>
>
>Peter.
>
>Please shut the fuck up
>Robert
>----- Original Message ----- From: "flight Bringer" 
><flightbringer at hotmail.co.uk>
>To: <gathering at misera.net>
>Sent: Thursday, October 12, 2006 8:00 PM
>Subject: Re: [kj] Jaz Straw
>
>
>>Robert. I would say that Jack Straw and his constituents live and work 
>>together . I'm sure that they've put their Religious differences aside and 
>>work together for the common good . I have not seen the fact that he was 
>>Jewish mentioned anywhere , infact I did nt even know until you mentioned 
>>it ..
>>  Jews and Muslims (generally) all live and work together in the UK . 
>>Discrimination is illegal in this country
>>
>>
>>>From: "Robert Mallett" <robert at jrcardwell.fsnet.co.uk>
>>>Reply-To: "A list about all things Killing Joke (the 
>>>band!)"<gathering at misera.net>
>>>To: "A list about all things Killing Joke (the band!)" 
>>><gathering at misera.net>
>>>Subject: Re: [kj] Jaz Straw
>>>Date: Thu, 12 Oct 2006 18:37:21 +0100
>>>
>>>Peter
>>>
>>>What I mean is he would have found it difficult enough being a Jewish MP 
>>>in a Muslim area. So why make remarks about the veil that he knows full 
>>>well will generate controversy?
>>>
>>>No, the last remark conveys my geneal dislike and suspicion of all 
>>>figures in authority. Why? Look around you!
>>>
>>>bob
>>>----- Original Message ----- From: "flight Bringer" 
>>><flightbringer at hotmail.co.uk>
>>>To: <gathering at misera.net>
>>>Sent: Thursday, October 12, 2006 6:27 PM
>>>Subject: Re: [kj] Jaz Straw
>>>
>>>
>>>>"The fact that he's Jewish means I find it very suspicious that
>>>>Straw of all people should raise a storm as controversial as this.No
>>>>Peter, I'm not remotely rascist"
>>>>
>>>>  No ones accusing you of being a racist . Jew is a Religion (just like 
>>>>Islam) and not a race of people, so its impossible to be a racist for 
>>>>being derogatory towards Jews.
>>>>  So why do you feel the need to mention that he is Jewish?
>>>>Dont worry , its not a witch hunt . I just wondered why you feel that 
>>>>him being Jewish means that you find it suspicious . Should nt people be 
>>>>judged on what they do or say rather than where they pray ?
>>>>   Is your last paragraph connected ?
>>>>
>>>>   "I just know what people from that strata of
>>>>society are like. Largely, they don't give a flying shit about you,
>>>>me or anyone else. Don't say I didn't warn you."
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>>From: "Robert Mallett" <robert at jrcardwell.fsnet.co.uk>
>>>>>Reply-To: "A list about all things Killing Joke (the 
>>>>>band!)"<gathering at misera.net>
>>>>>To: "A list about all things Killing Joke (the band!)" 
>>>>><gathering at misera.net>
>>>>>Subject: Re: [kj] Jaz Straw
>>>>>Date: Wed, 11 Oct 2006 15:34:59 +0100
>>>>>
>>>>>1)  The fact that he's Jewish means I find it very suspicious that 
>>>>>Straw of all people should raise a storm as controversial as this.No 
>>>>>Peter, I'm not remotely rascist;
>>>>>
>>>>>2) If he feels uncomfortable about women wearing hijabs then why 
>>>>>publicise it? Surely his staff in Blackburn could simply invite Muslim 
>>>>>women to remove the veil for reasons of etiquette? Of course he's 
>>>>>promoting himself! Don't be so fucking naive.
>>>>>
>>>>>3) No. The implication is that, yes he feels uncomfortable, but that he 
>>>>>thinks Muslim women in general are isolating themselves by wearing it. 
>>>>>So, he's trying to liberate them from this monstrous tyranny. Right on 
>>>>>Jack!
>>>>>
>>>>>4) I'm not pessimistic I just know what people from that strata of 
>>>>>society are like. Largely, they don't give a flying shit about you, me 
>>>>>or anyone else. Don't say I didn't warn you.
>>>>>
>>>>>
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