[kj] Jaz Straw

[Robert Mallett]

now you just sound deperate Peter. Get some sleep mate.


----- Original Message ----- 
From: "flight Bringer" <flightbringer at hotmail.co.uk>
To: <gathering at misera.net>
Sent: Thursday, October 12, 2006 8:34 PM
Subject: Re: [kj] Jaz Straw


> No way do you work in a university , ............well maybe as a caretaker 
> or his assistant. But in a teaching capacity ? No way .
>
>
>>From: "Robert Mallett" <robert at jrcardwell.fsnet.co.uk>
>>Reply-To: "A list about all things Killing Joke (the 
>>band!)"<gathering at misera.net>
>>To: "A list about all things Killing Joke (the band!)" 
>><gathering at misera.net>
>>Subject: Re: [kj] Jaz Straw
>>Date: Thu, 12 Oct 2006 20:27:47 +0100
>>
>>Robert. I would say that Jack Straw and his constituents live and work
>>together . I'm sure that they've put their Religious differences aside and
>>work together for the common good . I have not seen the fact that he was
>>Jewish mentioned anywhere , infact I did nt even know until you mentioned 
>>it
>>..
>>  Jews and Muslims (generally) all live and work together in the UK .
>>Discrimination is illegal in this country
>>
>>
>>Peter.
>>
>>Please shut the fuck up
>>Robert
>>----- Original Message ----- From: "flight Bringer" 
>><flightbringer at hotmail.co.uk>
>>To: <gathering at misera.net>
>>Sent: Thursday, October 12, 2006 8:00 PM
>>Subject: Re: [kj] Jaz Straw
>>
>>
>>>Robert. I would say that Jack Straw and his constituents live and work 
>>>together . I'm sure that they've put their Religious differences aside 
>>>and work together for the common good . I have not seen the fact that he 
>>>was Jewish mentioned anywhere , infact I did nt even know until you 
>>>mentioned it ..
>>>  Jews and Muslims (generally) all live and work together in the UK . 
>>> Discrimination is illegal in this country
>>>
>>>
>>>>From: "Robert Mallett" <robert at jrcardwell.fsnet.co.uk>
>>>>Reply-To: "A list about all things Killing Joke (the 
>>>>band!)"<gathering at misera.net>
>>>>To: "A list about all things Killing Joke (the band!)" 
>>>><gathering at misera.net>
>>>>Subject: Re: [kj] Jaz Straw
>>>>Date: Thu, 12 Oct 2006 18:37:21 +0100
>>>>
>>>>Peter
>>>>
>>>>What I mean is he would have found it difficult enough being a Jewish MP 
>>>>in a Muslim area. So why make remarks about the veil that he knows full 
>>>>well will generate controversy?
>>>>
>>>>No, the last remark conveys my geneal dislike and suspicion of all 
>>>>figures in authority. Why? Look around you!
>>>>
>>>>bob
>>>>----- Original Message ----- From: "flight Bringer" 
>>>><flightbringer at hotmail.co.uk>
>>>>To: <gathering at misera.net>
>>>>Sent: Thursday, October 12, 2006 6:27 PM
>>>>Subject: Re: [kj] Jaz Straw
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>>"The fact that he's Jewish means I find it very suspicious that
>>>>>Straw of all people should raise a storm as controversial as this.No
>>>>>Peter, I'm not remotely rascist"
>>>>>
>>>>>  No ones accusing you of being a racist . Jew is a Religion (just like 
>>>>> Islam) and not a race of people, so its impossible to be a racist for 
>>>>> being derogatory towards Jews.
>>>>>  So why do you feel the need to mention that he is Jewish?
>>>>>Dont worry , its not a witch hunt . I just wondered why you feel that 
>>>>>him being Jewish means that you find it suspicious . Should nt people 
>>>>>be judged on what they do or say rather than where they pray ?
>>>>>   Is your last paragraph connected ?
>>>>>
>>>>>   "I just know what people from that strata of
>>>>>society are like. Largely, they don't give a flying shit about you,
>>>>>me or anyone else. Don't say I didn't warn you."
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>>From: "Robert Mallett" <robert at jrcardwell.fsnet.co.uk>
>>>>>>Reply-To: "A list about all things Killing Joke (the 
>>>>>>band!)"<gathering at misera.net>
>>>>>>To: "A list about all things Killing Joke (the band!)" 
>>>>>><gathering at misera.net>
>>>>>>Subject: Re: [kj] Jaz Straw
>>>>>>Date: Wed, 11 Oct 2006 15:34:59 +0100
>>>>>>
>>>>>>1)  The fact that he's Jewish means I find it very suspicious that 
>>>>>>Straw of all people should raise a storm as controversial as this.No 
>>>>>>Peter, I'm not remotely rascist;
>>>>>>
>>>>>>2) If he feels uncomfortable about women wearing hijabs then why 
>>>>>>publicise it? Surely his staff in Blackburn could simply invite Muslim 
>>>>>>women to remove the veil for reasons of etiquette? Of course he's 
>>>>>>promoting himself! Don't be so fucking naive.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>3) No. The implication is that, yes he feels uncomfortable, but that 
>>>>>>he thinks Muslim women in general are isolating themselves by wearing 
>>>>>>it. So, he's trying to liberate them from this monstrous tyranny. 
>>>>>>Right on Jack!
>>>>>>
>>>>>>4) I'm not pessimistic I just know what people from that strata of 
>>>>>>society are like. Largely, they don't give a flying shit about you, me 
>>>>>>or anyone else. Don't say I didn't warn you.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
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