[kj] was Democracy now drink

[Robert Mallett]

Something very revealing about the first incarnation of Killing Joke as
opposed to latter years. They saw themselves as tea drinkers, not boozers.
It wasn't a drinking band. Would that it was still so.

If there is to be a further throw of the dice, I dearly hope they come back
'dry'.

totally agree. heavy drinking always ends in tears in my experience.

bob
----- Original Message ----- 
From: "god botherer" <acroastic at hotmail.com>
To: <gathering at misera.net>
Sent: Sunday, October 15, 2006 10:53 AM
Subject: [kj] was Democracy now drink


> I'm sure you're right about Geordie. I wish he'd put his foot down more. 
> That's where you need Big Paul. Why didn't Geordie leave the drink alone 
> and try and sort the sound out - at least live? He's so great, and life is 
> short. Probably right about Jaz. Drink a big negative again. Hope you're 
> not right about Raven. I imagine he would have been disappointed the way 
> the last album sounded - it could have been truly great. I think he is 
> concerned about quality - he's a great bass player - but seems to have 
> immersed himself in some of the more crass aspects of American culture.
>
> Something very revealing about the first incarnation of Killing Joke as 
> opposed to latter years. They saw themselves as tea drinkers, not boozers. 
> It wasn't a drinking band. Would that it was still so.
>
> If there is to be a further throw of the dice, I dearly hope they come 
> back 'dry'.
>
> Si
>
>
>>From: fluw <fluwdot at earthlink.net>
>
>>doubt raven regrets the last two..the guy just doesn't display that much 
>>concern for quality or ability to discern in general.
>>geordie must have regrets and it seems he has made statements that would 
>>support that position.
>>but jaz may be too absorbed to notice, and if he were to pull his head out 
>>his shit canal long enough to observe, he might find a whole mess of 
>>things less trivial to regret.
>>
>>
>>god botherer wrote:
>>>Agree about the pandering - surely they regret it.
>>>
>>>Si
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>>From: fluw <fluwdot at earthlink.net>
>>>
>>>>*i agree about the drumming to some extent..also feel that democracy was 
>>>>the last record where kj recorded material with less consciousness for 
>>>>an audience - pandemonium and the last two sound pandering. what's worse 
>>>>is the type of overcooked meatloaf chin mullet creature they pander too 
>>>>makes them virtually unlistenable. the experience is like listening to a 
>>>>politician, a sports commentator, or watching porno - uncreative, cheap, 
>>>>cheezy and predictable.
>>>>*
>>>>god botherer wrote:
>>>>>Just wanted to pay tribute to the drumming on Democracy, as I've never 
>>>>>seen anything complimentary said about the drummer. He brings Savage 
>>>>>Freedom alive, does exactly the right thing on Aeon, pounds away to 
>>>>>great effect on Pilgrimage and Absent Friends and there are some lovely 
>>>>>touches on tracks like Medicine Wheel.
>>>>>
>>>>>He wasn't to blame that there were a couple of turkeys on that album, 
>>>>>and that it was hamstrung by the production.
>>>>>
>>>>>Now he's gone and forgotten and unappreciated. Seems a shame.
>>>>>
>>>>>For all the faults on that album, I still sense that the band were 
>>>>>trying to make the music they wanted to make, without reference to the 
>>>>>whims of the market, and with Jaz remembering to sing some of the time 
>>>>>instead of just shouty vocals all the way through.
>>>>>
>>>>>Si
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>
>>>
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