[kj] brendan

melinda grant hollytree1961 at hotmail.com
Sat Aug 18 15:20:11 EDT 2007


its true,i do the window shopping thing on-line and often wish that i could
forget the concerns and dangers of "on-line banking/shopping" its proberly
true to say that i miss out on alot of bargains,rare
items ;-(

i can also see the convieance of it all,purchase items, pay up front,have it
sent to address,nice and straight forward so fare ;-),until theres a postal
strike ;-/ then its back to hunting down,not only delayed or lost
parcels,which must be tedious enough,(for all those on-line addict
shoppers)but also various shops for items,and the inconvieance of public
transport to get items to there home ;-D))) how unbearable for
them,SHOPPING PREISTORIC STYLE AGAIN LOL!!

on-line banking,um interesting news there from n.z,so now i know i am not
just paranoid about it all,my concerns have been justified :p and yes,
banks internationally are slack in the area of there share of the
responsabilitys to there customers on-line ;-/ and there pritty brazen at
times off it as wel ;)) ,what with the amount various banks were/are
charging customers in tax to name just one aspect:-/
anyway,some people fought back, have landed some banks in court and have won
there stolen money back ;-D

melinda


>From: "Brendan" <bq at soundgardener.co.nz>

>Reply-To: "A list about all things Killing Joke (the

>band!)"<gathering at misera.net>

>To: "A list about all things Killing Joke (the band!)"

><gathering at misera.net>

>Subject: Re: [kj] brendan/wady

>Date: Sat, 18 Aug 2007 11:06:01 +1200 (NZST)

>

>You're not wrong not trusting online banking, a bill just got passed in NZ

>putting almost all of the onus for your online banking security on the

>user. While I agree in part, namely that you need to take adequate

>precautions, banks need to take their share of the burden too.

>

>The Internet is such a great resource, it's one of the few things I can

>say I enjoy or inspires me about working in IT (the others being porn and

>games ;p), it's just a shame that fucktards have to spoil things for

>everyone...as per usual. Still, hopefully the Internet is doing more good

>than harm overall.

>

>

> > <html><div style='background-color:'><P>I deleted them from Hotmail, and

> > it seems they werent sent to my E Bay account first.&nbsp; All they

>looked

> > like were regular e mails from E Bay, in German.&nbsp; Really

> > innocent.&nbsp; With a link of course.&nbsp; Reply, or click on the

>link,

> > and somehow they hacked your account and changed the password, locking

>you

> > out.&nbsp; <BR><BR>Now, how they got the cash off people I dont

> > know.&nbsp; I dont think my Paypal account was compromised.&nbsp; I hope

> > not!&nbsp; No signs yet.&nbsp; So just look out for questions about

>things

> > you are not selling.&nbsp; </P>Sorry I could not be more helpful.&nbsp;

>I

> > dont trust online banking and commerce, and I think my E Baying and

>paying

> > is 'living on borrowed time' before someone robs me.&nbsp;

> > <BR><BR>OOOOH!<BR>

> > <DIV>

> > <H6 align=center><FONT face="Verdana, Geneva, Arial,

> > Sans-serif"><STRONG>Keep Smiling...</STRONG></FONT></H6></DIV>

> > <BLOCKQUOTE style="PADDING-LEFT: 5px; MARGIN-LEFT: 5px; BORDER-LEFT:

> > #a0c6e5 2px solid; MARGIN-RIGHT: 0px"><FONT style="FONT-SIZE: 11px;

> > FONT-FAMILY: tahoma,sans-serif">

> > <HR color=#a0c6e5 SIZE=1>

> > From: <I>"melinda grant"

> > &lt;hollytree1961 at hotmail.com&gt;</I><BR>Reply-To: <I>"A list about all

> > things Killing Joke (the band!)"&lt;gathering at misera.net&gt;</I><BR>To:

> > <I>gathering at misera.net</I><BR>Subject: <I>Re: [kj]

> > brendan/wady</I><BR>Date: <I>Wed, 15 Aug 2007 23:16:27

> > +0100</I><BR>&gt;ha.ha.ha. thats quite funny about the

> > megabites............btw <BR>&gt;there were only a couple of you tube

>vids

> > i downed and posted!!!! <BR>&gt;not loads as you think

> > ;-D))))<BR>&gt;<BR>&gt;hay lets see prooof(post it to list) of the

>german

> > invasion you said <BR>&gt;destroyed your e-bay account,so as to help out

> > any others gatherers <BR>&gt;on e-bay

>!!<BR>&gt;<BR>&gt;<BR>&gt;&gt;From:

> > "paul wady" &lt;paulwady at hotmail.com&gt;<BR>&gt;&gt;Reply-To: "A list

> > about all things Killing Joke (the

> > <BR>&gt;&gt;band!)"&lt;gathering at misera.net&gt;<BR>&gt;&gt;To:

> > gathering at misera.net<BR>&gt;&gt;Subject: Re: [kj]

> > brendan/wady<BR>&gt;&gt;Date: Wed, 15 Aug 2007 12:55:51

> > +0100<BR>&gt;&gt;<BR>&gt;&gt;<BR>&gt;&gt;Melinda, beware Ye the

> > Attachment!&nbsp; For it is the Spawn of Lucifer, <BR>&gt;&gt;and

>usually

> > what eats up the Megabytes.&nbsp; Download them all, and a

> > <BR>&gt;&gt;miraculous clearing of your inbox may

> > ensue.<BR>&gt;&gt;<BR>&gt;&gt;E Bay had to act against the German

> > Invasions.&nbsp; It was proper crime <BR>&gt;&gt;baby.&nbsp; As with the

> > thread on giving personal data away, it is <BR>&gt;&gt;indeed a new

>world

> > of personal danger.Having said that, you wouldnt <BR>&gt;&gt;believe

>what

> > I've given away online!&nbsp; I had my motives; After a <BR>&gt;&gt;life

> > like mine, what I have said about me was a bit of a relief.&nbsp;

> > <BR>&gt;&gt;Still stands what was said about being careful about

> > disclosure <BR>&gt;&gt;though.&nbsp; I have said much, but I reckon its

> > covered&nbsp;the presence of

> > <BR>&gt;&gt;a great deal more about my

> > life...<BR>&gt;&gt;<BR>&gt;&gt;<BR>&gt;&gt;<BR>&gt;&gt;<BR>&gt;&gt;Keep

> > Smiling...<BR>&gt;&gt;<BR>&gt;&gt;<BR>&gt;&gt;From: "melinda grant"

> > &lt;hollytree1961 at hotmail.com&gt;<BR>&gt;&gt;Reply-To: "A list about all

> > things Killing Joke (the

> > <BR>&gt;&gt;band!)"&lt;gathering at misera.net&gt;<BR>&gt;&gt;To:

> > gathering at misera.net<BR>&gt;&gt;Subject: Re: [kj]

> > brendan/wady<BR>&gt;&gt;Date: Mon, 13 Aug 2007 22:04:34

>+0100<BR>&gt;&gt;

> > &gt;hey brendan,<BR>&gt;&gt; &gt;<BR>&gt;&gt; &gt;one thing for sure is

> > that my-- mail box-- has not reached its<BR>&gt;&gt; &gt;capacity of

> > max,its at 17 percent( that includes all folders as

> > <BR>&gt;&gt;wel)<BR>&gt;&gt; &gt;at mo,that isnt even a third

>full,hotmail

> > are generious with <BR>&gt;&gt;space<BR>&gt;&gt; &gt;these days,so the

> > size limit should present no problem,i will try<BR>&gt;&gt; &gt;posting

>a

> > vid to my yahoo

> > address,it may be the fault of --you<BR>&gt;&gt; &gt;tube--hope it just

> > applyied to the weekend,maybe server was tooo<BR>&gt;&gt; &gt;bizzy?!?!

> > although after i had posted a vid from you-tube--the<BR>&gt;&gt;

> > &gt;company did present the usual...vid arrived successfully..then

> > <BR>&gt;&gt;you<BR>&gt;&gt;<BR>&gt;&gt; &gt;close the box.<BR>&gt;&gt;

> > &gt;<BR>&gt;&gt; &gt;<BR>&gt;&gt; &gt;<BR>&gt;&gt; &gt;<BR>&gt;&gt;

>&gt;as

> > i said,it may of arrived successfully--sometime else---but

> > <BR>&gt;&gt;that<BR>&gt;&gt; &gt;wasnt into my inbox at

> > hotmail<BR>&gt;&gt; &gt;<BR>&gt;&gt; &gt;;-))) maybe they have turned up

> > in anothers in-box some how,a<BR>&gt;&gt; &gt;cardinal maybe....."whats

> > this,vids from you<BR>&gt;&gt; &gt;tube--p.i.l/joydivision,kiling

> > joke,whats all this? i posted <BR>&gt;&gt;bible<BR>&gt;&gt; &gt;classes

> > and got this lot back--is this a joke vicar/" cardinal<BR>&gt;&gt;

> > &gt;looking

> > red face with rage-- anger!!! ;-D))))) good job there<BR>&gt;&gt;

>&gt;was

> > no porn hay...coughs...and no,have not recieved any bible

> > <BR>&gt;&gt;class<BR>&gt;&gt; &gt;vid ,that proberly went to hugh

> > hefferner by mistake ;-D)))))))))<BR>&gt;&gt; &gt;<BR>&gt;&gt; &gt;i

>will

> > change my-- user name-- at you tube,i have changed

> > <BR>&gt;&gt;password<BR>&gt;&gt; &gt;few times by habbit,i do that on

>all

> > my accounts about once every<BR>&gt;&gt; &gt;month,thats strange,as the

> > you tube password,has nothing to do

> > <BR>&gt;&gt;with<BR>&gt;&gt;<BR>&gt;&gt; &gt;k.j name association,but it

> > is a combination of another password <BR>&gt;&gt;of<BR>&gt;&gt;

> > &gt;mine,just spelt backwards! its 2 others that have k.j

> > connection.<BR>&gt;&gt; &gt;<BR>&gt;&gt; &gt;paul,your ebay hassle from

>a

> > german sender,what a hassle that<BR>&gt;&gt; &gt;sounded perhaps it was

>a

> > mistake ;-0<BR>&gt;&gt; &gt;or perhaps they were

> > sick of you wining the same things they had <BR>&gt;&gt;bid<BR>&gt;&gt;

> > &gt;for but were unsuccessful in wining?1? i dont know,i am

> > just<BR>&gt;&gt; &gt;guessing,plus i have very little to do with e-bay

> > anyhow,but as <BR>&gt;&gt;you<BR>&gt;&gt; &gt;mentioned,if a person can

>do

> > that level of damage to your<BR>&gt;&gt; &gt;account,who knows how

>another

> > can screw up anothers <BR>&gt;&gt;account!!!!!!!<BR>&gt;&gt;

> > &gt;<BR>&gt;&gt; &gt;melinda ps why do you think i never put full

>details

> > on my <BR>&gt;&gt;profile<BR>&gt;&gt; &gt;page? and i still encounter

> > hassles,as so many others do on--line <BR>&gt;&gt;in<BR>&gt;&gt; &gt;one

> > way or another ;-/<BR>&gt;&gt; &gt;<BR>&gt;&gt; &gt;<BR>&gt;&gt;

> > &gt;&gt;From:

> > "Brendan"<BR>&gt;&gt;&lt;bq at soundgardener.co.nz&gt;<BR>&gt;&gt;

> > &gt;&gt;Reply-To: "A list about all things Killing Joke (the<BR>&gt;&gt;

> > &gt;&gt;band!)"&lt;gathering at misera.net&gt;<BR>&gt;&gt; &gt;&gt;To: "A

> > list about all things Killing Joke (the band!)"<BR>&gt;&gt;

> > &gt;&gt;&lt;gathering at misera.net&gt;<BR>&gt;&gt; &gt;&gt;Subject: Re:

>[kj]

> > anyone else had this???<BR>&gt;&gt; &gt;&gt;Date: Mon, 13 Aug 2007

> > 12:47:21 +1200 (NZST)<BR>&gt;&gt; &gt;&gt;<BR>&gt;&gt; &gt;&gt;Your

> > hotmail account seems fine, seeing as you're sending to and<BR>&gt;&gt;

> > &gt;&gt;receiving<BR>&gt;&gt; &gt;&gt;from the list...I'm not familiar

> > with that function in YouTube, <BR>&gt;&gt;I<BR>&gt;&gt;

> > &gt;&gt;suppose<BR>&gt;&gt; &gt;&gt;it just sends the link to the video?

> > If it's more data than <BR>&gt;&gt;that,<BR>&gt;&gt; &gt;&gt;it

> > could<BR>&gt;&gt; &gt;&gt;be your hotmail account has an incoming size

> > limit on individual<BR>&gt;&gt; &gt;&gt;emails or<BR>&gt;&gt;

>&gt;&gt;that

> > your mailbox is almost full.<BR>&gt;&gt; &gt;&gt;<BR>&gt;&gt;

> > &gt;&gt;Youtube prolly has email technical support...after being bought

> > <BR>&gt;&gt;out<BR>&gt;&gt;<BR>&gt;&gt; &gt;&gt;for<BR>&gt;&gt;

> > &gt;&gt;two billion or whatever you'd hope they could afford

> > it...<BR>&gt;&gt; &gt;&gt;<BR>&gt;&gt; &gt;&gt;If you're worried about

> > either account being compromised, good <BR>&gt;&gt;idea<BR>&gt;&gt;

> > &gt;&gt;to<BR>&gt;&gt; &gt;&gt;change passwords on both...and don't use

> > KillingJoke or anything<BR>&gt;&gt; &gt;&gt;like it<BR>&gt;&gt;

> > &gt;&gt;either =)<BR>&gt;&gt; &gt;&gt;<BR>&gt;&gt; &gt;&gt;

> > &gt;<BR>&gt;&gt; &gt;&gt; &gt;<BR>&gt;&gt; &gt;&gt; &gt; i went to send

>a

> > few vids from you tube,both yesterday eve <BR>&gt;&gt;and<BR>&gt;&gt;

> > &gt;&gt;again<BR>&gt;&gt; &gt;&gt; &gt; today,these i sent to my own

> > hotmail address,not directly to <BR>&gt;&gt;the<BR>&gt;&gt; &gt;&gt;

>&gt;

> > list,yet,the vids are not arriving in my in--box,i am puzzled

> > <BR>&gt;&gt;as<BR>&gt;&gt; &gt;&gt;i have<BR>&gt;&gt; &gt;&gt; &gt;

> > done<BR>&gt;&gt; &gt;&gt; &gt; this on other occassions befor,with no

> > problem,vids always<BR>&gt;&gt; &gt;&gt;arrived,<BR>&gt;&gt; &gt;&gt;

> > &gt;<BR>&gt;&gt; &gt;&gt; &gt; apart from yesterday/today--i am baffled

> > actually,and think <BR>&gt;&gt;that<BR>&gt;&gt;

>&gt;&gt;maybe<BR>&gt;&gt;

> > &gt;&gt; &gt; someone has<BR>&gt;&gt;been mucking around with my you

>tube

> > account with<BR>&gt;&gt; &gt;&gt;out my<BR>&gt;&gt; &gt;&gt; &gt;

> > knowledge,maybe someone on the list/or not, who has a lot of<BR>&gt;&gt;

> > &gt;&gt; &gt; knowledge--did<BR>&gt;&gt; &gt;&gt; &gt; it as a joke ;-)

>or

> > deliberatly ;-0 who knows reasons why <BR>&gt;&gt;some<BR>&gt;&gt;

> > &gt;&gt;people do<BR>&gt;&gt; &gt;&gt; &gt; things ;-/ jealously,i dont

> > know-i have no proof<BR>&gt;&gt; &gt;&gt;unfortunatly,all i

> > can<BR>&gt;&gt; &gt;&gt; &gt; say is befor, you tube vids

> > arrive ok.<BR>&gt;&gt; &gt;&gt; &gt;<BR>&gt;&gt; &gt;&gt; &gt; last

>place

> > i posted one to was the list,last week,that

> > <BR>&gt;&gt;arrived<BR>&gt;&gt; &gt;&gt;ok, THE<BR>&gt;&gt; &gt;&gt;

>&gt;

> > PROBLEM U SEE STARTED AFTER THAT-- subsequent ones have not<BR>&gt;&gt;

> > &gt;&gt;arrived, who<BR>&gt;&gt; &gt;&gt; &gt; says that someone may of

> > got hold of my details, and altered<BR>&gt;&gt;

> > &gt;&gt;something,in<BR>&gt;&gt; &gt;&gt; &gt; someway so as my vids

>dont

> > arrive!!!! i think this is<BR>&gt;&gt; &gt;&gt;possible---

> > there<BR>&gt;&gt; &gt;&gt; &gt; may<BR>&gt;&gt; &gt;&gt;

> > &gt;<BR>&gt;&gt;be another quite innocent reason--what do you

> > think????<BR>&gt;&gt; &gt;&gt; &gt; about it ;-D?<BR>&gt;&gt; &gt;&gt;

> > &gt;<BR>&gt;&gt; &gt;&gt; &gt;<BR>&gt;&gt;

> >

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