[kj] Killing joke and Communism

[Frank Frik]

hi,cliffmonka, ja, this thread was set up ...well, you shall read Mister's Black topic first.
  But it was set up certainly not  ' for nazi,serial killing, kiddie rape........'' . You shall stay here longer and ask questions. I am answering to you the first: The Nazi was the socialist's partys soldiers, who, when Allies didn't keep their promises, went ballistic, having revenche on all other socialists. And, of course, russian revols gone down first. Only faithfull Nations reminded  together: Italy and Japan, having the same predators problem like Germans and other West Europian countrys. This is my statement. Iam waiting for your oppinion.

cliffmonka at alaska.net wrote:
  i only joined the gathering because i thought it was for nazi,serial killing,kiddie
rape,homosexuals,that go to church and shoot speed in their eye sockets.
thanks for clearing that up.



> Catholics are fucking bastards in all dimentions. Now Irish cunts are taking

> russian bastards live and work in Ireland and got rid of British defence too. I

> would love to see Ireland in 50 years time. Perhaps they will manage level of these

> days of ekonomic of India if not worse.

>

> Brendan wrote: The catholics (whose dogma I was

> unfortunate to be brainwashed with pretty

> much from birth) were involved with providing escape routes for Nazi war

> criminals at the end of WWII, well documented:

>

> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ratlines_(history)

>

>

>>> They also used Nazis saluting a pope! One of my fave band-appropriated

>> images ever used.

>>

>> This one is the best - showing the Catholic church's duplicity: "We don't

>> want to upset the Nazi's in case they win & come looking for us". Nice!

>>

>> -----Original Message-----

>> From: gathering-bounces at misera.net

>> [mailto:gathering-bounces at misera.net]On Behalf Of B. Oliver Sheppard

>> Sent: 21 August 2007 21:55

>> To: A list about all things Killing Joke (the band!)

>> Subject: Re: [kj] Killing joke and Communism

>>

>>

>> I like the Killng Joke hammer & sickle logo. I'm pretty sure Alex is

>> right that it is an ultimately meaningless thing, a kind of punk-era

>> playing with ideological symbols of the past to be provocative -- the

>> Sex Pistols wore swastikas, they did also wear commie symbols (and not

>> just in the Alex Cox movie) while bands like Durruti Column were named

>> after an anarchist band, and Crass of course employed the crossed-out

>> cross and circle-A, though, dammit, they were serious. Punk started all

>> that "let;s use provocative political symbols to get a rise out of

>> people" stuff.

>>

>> A few years ago there was a trend of army green messenger bags with red

>> stars on them, or black shirts with a big red star on the, probably

>> intended to invoke associations w/ communism and/or anarcho-syndicalism.

>> Of these are all made by capitalist outfitters. It's one of those

>> punk-started things that percolated up into mass market conusmerist

>> culture.

>>

>> Jaz's political statements have been so wild and varied over the years I

>> dunno where to consistently place him on any scale.

>>

>> They also used Nazis saluting a pope! One of my fave band-appropriated

>> images ever used. :)

>>

>> -Oliver

>>

>>

>> Frank Frik wrote:

>>> And perhaps British labour goverment wouldn't be offended...lnew

>>> labour from communists is not that far....swastica defended/and do

>>> the ''conservationist democrat centrist right wing. partys''.

>>>

>>> */Mister Black /* wrote:

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