[kj] October File banner ad w/ pic of Jaz on it

[Christof hamille]

For the record I think Hosannas, as a whole, is okay.  IF (caps intentional) 
it was recorded better (does a band like Killing Joke really want to record 
in a garage band style...I think no...they probably spent their money on 
their "pub" or whatever it is they have in Prague) and half of the songs 
were edited from 7+ minutes to 3-4 it could've been one of their best.
It has some of the greatest Geordie riffs ever.  But some of those songs 
just keep going and going where if the songs were shorter it may have made a 
better impact.
I just think the title stinks.
And you are right about being critical.  But they are one of my top 3 
favorite artists (behind Tom Waits and tied with Motörhed - depending on 
which album/era).

They still have it in them.  It's just waiting for it to come out

Chris



>From: "B. Oliver Sheppard" <bigblackhair at sbcglobal.net>

>Reply-To: "A list about all things Killing Joke (the 

>band!)"<gathering at misera.net>

>To: "A list about all things Killing Joke (the band!)" 

><gathering at misera.net>

>Subject: Re: [kj] October File banner ad w/ pic of Jaz on it

>Date: Thu, 30 Aug 2007 09:22:48 -0500

>

>Haha, I'm constantly amazed that Killing Joke has some of the most critical 

>fans I think I've ever seen on a mailing list.

>

>I'll regularly get berated, etc., for saying Hosannas is good; people bitch 

>about Jaz's behavior; Christof thinks most of the LP titles suck (he's 

>right about the cover of Nighttime though); etc. One guy on a MySpace KJ 

>forum really launched into a huge, shitty, spiteful tirade against me for 

>trying to say Hosannas was a good album. I tried to remind him he was on a 

>fan forum ("fan" is short for "fanatic") for Killing Joke and that he 

>shouldn't be surprised if someone on a KJ fan forum says one of Killing 

>Joke's albums is good. This enraged hi further.

>

>On the other hand, boy does BTATS suck. :)

>

>-Oliver

>

>

>

>Christof hamille wrote:

>>Really are any of Killing Jokes album titles good.........

>>

>>s/t - okay it's the first official record

>>

>>What's This For? - Uh I don't know. Maybe the best one out of them all. 

>>But still for the uninitiated it seems a bit...presumptuous, confusing, 

>>not sure. Something.

>>

>>Revelations - Good but kind of cheesy. "Look at us we will show you the 

>>light" kind of thing

>>

>>Fire Dances - It seems like they are assuming they are the (fire) gods of 

>>tribal, electronic whatever.

>>

>>Night Time - Same as above. And the cover stinks.

>>

>>Brighter than a Thousand Suns - Look above. We are sooooooooooooooooooo 

>>great.

>>

>>Outside the Gate - Same as the previous ones and the album stinks. And the 

>>cover is worse

>>

>>Extremities, Dirt & Various Repressed Emotions - I like it but it would 

>>work better as a book title. It sucks having tot try to spill all of that 

>>out. So then you try to tell your friend which albums to buy and you have 

>>to fumble through all of that. Especially after you've had a few. But it 

>>is unique and it is not a song title. Some thought may have been put into 

>>it.

>>

>>Pandemonium - It'll work. Bit of a phone in. Let's pick a song title.

>>

>>Democracy - Same as above.

>>

>>s/t 2003 - Lazy. Pure laziness. I'd rather have a song title. And the 

>>argument that Peter Gabriel did it 3 times doesn't help. And the cover 

>>stinks.

>>

>>Hosannas from the Basement of Hell - Another long one that you have to 

>>slur out. And it's not good. I don't care what it means. It sounds silly. 

>>Are they a garage band? Maybe they are so "underground" deep and brooding. 

>>Either way pick something else. The cover would have been fine if Jaz 

>>didn't do the lettering with his crayons.

>>

>>When going to comps, etc

>>

>>Ha! - it's fine. Again are they laughing at you for buying it? Or maybe 

>>for not being there? Or maybe for not getting it.

>>

>>An Incomplete Collection - Phone in.

>>

>>Laugh? I Nearly Bought One - It's fine. Maybe poking fun at themselves.

>>

>>Wilful Days - Another phone in but it'll work.

>>

>>No Way Out But Forward Go - Look at Extremities. Say this three times 

>>fast. I would almost bet that Colsey came up with it. It's cool but damn.

>>

>>Unperverted Pantomime - I like it but again I would bet that Colsey came 

>>up with it.

>>

>>Chaos for Breakfast - look above

>>

>>25th Gathering Let Us Prey Live - It is fine.

>>

>>At this point in the day work is slow and I'd rather mull over album 

>>titles than Amy Winehouse - who I've never even heard of until yesterday-

>>

>>Chris

>>

>>

>>>From: "Phillipps Marc" <Marc.Phillipps at enfield.nhs.uk>

>>>Reply-To: "A list about all things Killing Joke (the 

>>>band!)"<gathering at misera.net>

>>>To: "A list about all things Killing Joke (the band!)" 

>>><gathering at misera.net>

>>>Subject: Re: [kj] October File banner ad w/ pic of Jaz on it

>>>Date: Thu, 30 Aug 2007 13:09:49 +0100

>>>

>>> >CHEERS Oliver, stupid title for an album innit?

>>>

>>>See also Hosannas from the Basements of Hell (good album, crap title)

>>>

>>>

>>>

>>>-----Original Message-----

>>>From: gathering-bounces at misera.net

>>>[mailto:gathering-bounces at misera.net]On Behalf Of Rob Horan

>>>Sent: 30 August 2007 13:04

>>>To: A list about all things Killing Joke (the band!)

>>>Subject: Re: [kj] October File banner ad w/ pic of Jaz on it

>>>

>>>

>>>CHEERS Oliver, stupid title for an album innit?

>>>

>>>-----Original Message-----

>>>From: gathering-bounces at misera.net [mailto:gathering-bounces at misera.net]

>>>On Behalf Of B. Oliver Sheppard

>>>Sent: 30 August 2007 12:56

>>>To: A list about all things Killing Joke (the band!)

>>>Subject: [kj] October File banner ad w/ pic of Jaz on it

>>>

>>>At their MySpace page blog entry here:

>>>

>>>

>>>http://blog.myspace.com/index.cfm?fuseaction=blog.view&friendID=11772626

>>>&blogID=301428158

>>>

>>>

>>>Still no songs posted with his vox, though.

>>>

>>>-Oliver

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