[kj] Jamie Bulger.

[Paul Wady]

Thank you.  

Now I have to sort out Christmas, after all that.  Oh boy...

Remembering Jamie. x


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> Date: Thu, 20 Dec 2007 09:13:18 +1300

> From: bq at soundgardener.co.nz

> To: gathering at misera.net

> Subject: Re: [kj] Jamie Bulger.

> 

> Hey Wady welcome back, was wondering where you'd got to, living up to your

> name by wading right in I see (groan) ;)

> 

>> Just returned from our Roman honeymoon.  I'm married.  Its good.

>>

>> Ah, the Bulger killers.

>>

>> They arent the same people any more.  Over ten years of trying to change

>> them/reform them/DON'T YOU REALISE WHAT THE FUCK YOU DID TO THAT CHILD?

>> and finally a Judge decides they should be released.  If you wanted to

>> punish the killers, they should have been executed at the time.  Plenty of

>> societies did stuff like that and still do.  A dark corner, a quick move

>> and out the door.  Bye bye murderers.  Simple.

>>

>> Instead, I think its a bit late.  If you did to them what they did to that

>> toddler, you'd be doing it to completely different people now.  Thats

>> whats been going on as far as I can see.  Years of intensive treatment, to

>> the point that one day or night those people may have woken up to realise

>> what they did, the way Jamie's Mother does every single minute of the rest

>> of what she looks forward to as a life.  Jamie does not, of course.

>>

>> That's punishment.  Live with that.  I'm Autistic and I can feel something

>> about this!  Imagine how they are?  There are worse things than just

>> ending the torment, like spending the rest of your life looking over your

>> shoulder?  Wondering if anyone knows what you did?

>>

>> Wondering and waiting.

>>

>> Keep Smiling...

>>

>>> Date: Wed, 19 Dec 2007 11:19:48 +0000> From: pmdavies at gmail.com> To:

>>> gathering at misera.net> Subject: Re: [kj] o/t Please sign the petition -

>>> it's too late>> i dont have the time right now to give proper

>>> consideration to your> points but taking the first few line.>> The

>>> Krishnamurti quote is at least challenging. Its not to hold like a>

>>> commandment, its to question.>> however, as a quick touch on the

>>> subject, what exists externally is a> reflectiion of the internal. If

>>> your life is full of violence then> that because you are in turmoil

>>> inside. Only by finding peace within> yourself can peace exist around

>>> you. Now violence is often> misconstrued. I can smash someone in the

>>> face but still be in peace.> It was an act without duality in the

>>> moment. Therefore its the emotion> that puts the value on the act.

>>> Conflict is a result of fragmentation,> friction caused by you being

>>> pulled in different directions. Belief is> a source of conflict as

>>> belief is rigid, truth simply is, there is no> rigidity.>> an example

>>> of emotion in an act can be in christmas gifts. many people> here will

>>> simply give gifts because we have to. There is no emotion.> An ipod to a

>>> pair of socks. The real gift is the one which you have> thought about

>>> and give with love. The emotion behind the act is what> gives it value.>

>>>> wanting to hurt a Bulger killer is not really about them, its really>

>>> about something in conflict inside you. Until that is faced, the>

>>> conflict will never go away.>> On Dec 19, 2007 10:27 AM, Brendan Quinn

>>>  wrote:>> Have you analysed that paragraph, I

>>> did quickly and it seems to me to be>> logically flawed.>>>> If

>>> you're free of violence in yourself...the question is...when you ask

>>> such>> a question you are not living peacefully...>

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