[kj] philosophucky

[Brendan Quinn]

Gnosticism to me is the lyrics of Labyrinth, Communion, Exorcism,
Lightbringer, This Savage Freedom etc.

 

Oh and dark robes, anal fisting and Georgian chants, but I can't really go
into that side of it.not until you've perfected the glassy eyed stare (we
like to refer to it as 'enigmatic').

 

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From: gathering-bounces at misera.net [mailto:gathering-bounces at misera.net] On
Behalf Of Paul Wady
Sent: Sunday, 23 December 2007 11:35 a.m.
To: A list about all things Killing Joke (the band!)
Subject: Re: [kj] philosophucky

 

Pragmatic Empiricism is everything...
 
About, ooh, 8 years ago the Universal Church of XXX(somethinoranother)
Gnostic Movement (Order in formation) moved into the floor above that
occupied by the North London Buddhist centre of the Western Buddhist Order
at that time, which I frequented the way that sane men of my age then
frequented pubs, Raymonds Revue bar etc.

So one day, I went up to see them.  

I got about two metres into their doorway, frozen by a collection of gentle
and identical smiles and the same glassey eyed look in their faces.  They
were very nice in the way that it was obvious they wouldnt even tell you the
time.  One man apparently in charge gave me the name of a book, on a post it
note, that was coming out in print in America in a few weeks that would
explain about them.  That was every single thing I learned about them.  
 
I saw more of them coming up the stairs as I left, with exactly the same
looks in their eyes, and that gentle smile.  
 
Gnosticism.  Thank you.  
 
Nietzsche hugged carthorses.  I am a direct and prolonged function of loud
rock music, too much Dr Who as a child and direct commands from God on a
regular basis to Kill Them All.
 
Happy Christmas everyone.  X


Keep Smiling...


 


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From: bq at soundgardener.co.nz
To: gathering at misera.net
Date: Sat, 22 Dec 2007 09:08:12 +1300
Subject: Re: [kj] philosophucky

My point is really that the statement was too broad in scope, Nietzsche had
a propensity for trying to be as concise as possible, in which he was hugely
successful but I feel you reach a point where you try to throw too much of
the universe into a single rule, .e.g. which interpretation of life you
choose to use *can be* a function a lots of things, not JUST the prevailing
belief system of the power elite. Other factors are personal experience,
religious beliefs, political beliefs, emotional bias, chemical balance of
the brain, influence and control from those around you, the prevailing
zeitgeist of your culture / subculture etc.

 

Pls explain what you found odd about my posting, I can't remember asking
about that quote.and I don't really have particularly strong opinions about
Freemasonry. I was invited to join a lodge and was mildly keen up until the
point where I was advised that a pre-requisite was belief in a supreme being
(oh and I would have had to buy a bloody suit, heh :-)). I couldn't / can't
honestly say I have a belief in a supreme being. Very hard to shake the idea
when you're raised as a devout catholic, and that concept is a presence in
your life from your earliest memories.but the supreme being never fucking
checked his voicemail as far as I was concerned, the day I come home and
find a nine-foot high pile of GI Joe toys, train sets, katanas, wings of
icarus, drugs, Ferraris and pussy (all pending prayers not yet answered),
THEN I'll believe in the fucker, I'd even be happy to tithe (!) Until then,
I'm sticking with weird old empirical evidence and reason.

 

Have always respected the little I know about the Gnostic faith, the 'belief
system' I suppose I subscribe to the most would be the 'model agnosticicism'
of Robert Anton Wilson.which seems quite compatible with Gnosticism.

 

 

 


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From: gathering-bounces at misera.net [mailto:gathering-bounces at misera.net] On
Behalf Of folk devil
Sent: Friday, 21 December 2007 5:16 p.m.
To: A list about all things Killing Joke (the band!)
Subject: Re: [kj] philosophucky

 

True, physics and chemistry bound by the law [power] of nature. Which we're
all bound by....[christ that sounds hippy... ]
btw I'm not a great fan of Nietzsche, although he has a point when it comes
to ideologies, hegemonies and belief systems.. ;)
 
Also Brendan, your earlier posting on masonry was odd, having asked me where
'in this light [sign]we are victorious' came from previously...
 
In hoc signo vinces...


> Date: Fri, 21 Dec 2007 14:50:45 +1300

> From: bq at soundgardener.co.nz

> To: gathering at misera.net

> Subject: Re: [kj] philosophucky

> 

> Not entirely true. Science for example, is not entirely biased or at the

> whim of the power elite. Life's a little more complex than Nietzsche would

> have liked. He's largely right however.

> 

> >

> > and back to this ol' chestnut..

> >

> > 'All things are subject to interpretation whichever interpretation

> > prevails at a given time is a function of power and not truth'. -

> > Nietzsche.> Date: Fri, 21 Dec 2007 13:00:27 +1300> From:

> > bq at soundgardener.co.nz> To: gathering at misera.net> Subject: Re: [kj]

> > philosophucky> > Ain't the the truth...I mean, ain't that a fac...ain't

> > that how it is? Or> at least, ain't that our, um, perception of how it

> > appears to be based on> the signals coming in to our nervous systems and

> > the way we are hard-wired> and adapted through experience and learning

to

> > experience them> subjectively...> > ;)> > > thats what i said!> > @ : )>

> > >> > aaaaaauuuuuummmmmmmmm> >> > lol> >> >> > On Dec 20, 2007 9:22 PM,

> > bongo <humanhybrid666 at gmail.com> wrote:> >> truth is a human concept...>

> > >> there is no truth, only What Is> >>> >> =)> >

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