[kj] [KJ] Killing Joke "Rawk"

[Dimitri Bukharin]

Fuck the Police!

On 1/11/07, Alexander Smith <vassifer at earthlink.net> wrote:

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> I'll shout WHEN I THINK SHOUTING IS APPLICABLE.

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> To some, "old hip hop" is just as lamentable -- if not more so -- than

> Sting and Supetramp.

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> For what it's worth, I don't own any Sting albums -- that was just an

> example. I do own everything by the Police though.

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> Alex in NYC

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>  On Jan 11, 2007, at 3:31 PM, Dimitri Bukharin wrote:

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>  No Sting or Supertramp I'm afraid! I only bought two albums last year,

> Killing Joke And Transmission. I don't claim to be cool, to old for that

> shit but I don't own any records that I'm not proud to have bought.

>  When I'm not listening to the Joke I'm more an electro house and old

> hip-hop fan though my old punk records get a play now and again. Oh and NO

> NEED TO SHOUT!

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> On 1/11/07, Alexander Smith <vassifer at earthlink.net> wrote:

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> > And why should that be? Worried about people judging you because you

> > happen to own -- let alone like -- an album or two by Sting or Supertramp or

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> > Look, EVERYone -- even the hippest of uber-hepcats -- owns a guilty

> > pleasure or two. Let's all stop being such ridiculous elitists, for cryin'

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> > LET THE SKELETONS OUT OF THOSE CLOSETS!!

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> > Alex in NYC

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> >  On Jan 11, 2007, at 3:02 PM, Dimitri Bukharin wrote:

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> >  When have I said I only listen to one type of music? I choose to keep

> > my tastes in non Killing Joke related music to myself.

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> > On 1/11/07, Alexander Smith <vassifer at earthlink.net > wrote:

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> > > Quite sure, thanks.  As someone else said -- I believe it was Javier

> > > -- what a boring life you must lead if you only listen to one type of music.

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> > > Alex in NYC

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> > >  On Jan 11, 2007, at 12:47 PM, Dimitri Bukharin wrote:

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> > >  Paul Simon, Queen........... Are you sure you like Killing Joke?

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> > > On 1/11/07, Alexander Smith <vassifer at earthlink.net > wrote:

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> > > > Back in the days of vinyl, I used to organize by genre or by what

> > > > I'd perceive as a quasi-genre ("flavor of the month brit hype bands" ala

> > > > Jesus & Mary Chain, the Primitives, the Sugarcubes, etc.) This just got too

> > > > unwieldy after a while, and upon the advent of discs, I just went with

> > > > alphabetizing, which makes loads more sense (although it means certain

> > > > artists sit incongruously next to each other on the shelves..... Paul Simon

> > > > sits next to Siouxsie.... the Plasmatics sit next to Robert Plant....Pussy

> > > > Galore sit next to Queen, etc.)

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> > > > Alex in NYC

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> > > >  On Jan 11, 2007, at 12:28 PM, Javier Garcia wrote:

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> > > >  Dimitri wrote:

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> > > > Or not!, and maybe you can do it the way you feel to. I just can't

> > > > mix some soft/electronic stuff i have with metal... you know what i mean?.

> > > > It's just my way to look for records easier. It's more practical to me.

> > > > After all, labels and genres exist weather you like it or not. You

> > > > can use them or not.

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> > > > But you want me to believe that you never, ever use labels... yeah,

> > > > right! I'm not a label/genre defender, but they are not useless. That's my

> > > > only point.

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> > > > And so, after your complaint with that store, under what label are

> > > > KJ now? or they are re-organize all the store and now they went all

> > > > alphabetical?? So maybe you now can find Killing Joke "easier": it's just

> > > > next to Kenny G, Khawaja Zia ud din, King Pinz, Kid Rock, Krystal Blue and

> > > > Kajagoogoo?? HA! Now i call that easy!!!

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> > > > Javier

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> > > > *Subject : *Re: [kj] [KJ] Killing Joke "Rawk"

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> > > > *Date : *Thu, 11 Jan 2007 17:02:48 +0000

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> > > > *From : *"Dimitri Bukharin" < krasnidenamit at googlemail.com>

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> > > > *To : *"A list about all things Killing Joke (the band!)" <gathering at misera.net

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> > > > You could allways put your collection in alphabetical order then

> > > > it's dead

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> > > > easy to find everything!

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> > > > A HMV store near me put the Joke in their "rawk" section so I sent a

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> > > > of complaint and their back with all the regular shit now.

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> > > > On 1/11/07, Javier Garcia wrote:

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> > > > > Second that man, on the other hand labels are necessary to find a

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> > > > > on a shop, to organize your CD's (maybe you make your own

> > > > labeling), to look

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> > > > > for new music in sites like "epitonic"... it's a practical thing;

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> > > > > know, imho there are many useful things about labels. Still, i

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> > > > > when the members of a band don't want to be classified by

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> > > > > don't want musical limits.

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> > > > > You're damn right! but he would have looked hot, don't you think

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> > > > > *Subject : *Re: [kj] [KJ] Killing Joke "Rawk"

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> > > > > *Date : *Wed, 10 Jan 2007 18:56:39 +0000

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> > > > > *From : *"Dimitri Bukharin"

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> > > > > *To : *"A list about all things Killing Joke (the band!)" <

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> > > > > Lemmy said in an interview once that Motorhead were a punk band

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> > > > > labled Killing Joke as one too so your as guilty of pigeonholing

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> > > > > On 1/10/07, Peter Moltesen wrote:

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> > > > > > why has everything got to be classified ????

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> > > > > > I really don't understand that – I was listening to the first KJ

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> > > > > > today and I can hear all kinds of

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> > > > > > influences, from punk to funk to krautrock. Theres all sorts of

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> > > > > > going on in there. Maybe that's why

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> > > > > > KJ stood out so much from the other bands that were around then

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> > > > > > other punk bands would have admitted being influenced by Chic /

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> > > > > > Stop pidgeonholing everything. Its BORING

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> > > > > > PS - Lemmy never wore spandex – does that mean he's not 'rawk'

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> > > > > > *On Behalf Of *Dimitri Bukharin

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> > > > > > *Sent:* 10 January 2007 15:41

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> > > > > > *To:* A list about all things Killing Joke (the band!)

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> > > > > > *Subject:* [kj] [KJ] Killing Joke "Rawk"

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> > > > > > I listened to the first 5 studio albums today and could not find

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> > > > > > "Rawk" in any of them. Am I missing something while listening to

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> > > > > > works? I dont remember Jaz in spandex or Geordie with a V-neck

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> > > > > > although I remember Big Paul having a somewhat large drum kit.

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> > > > > > bands from the 80's shared the Joke's sound? It seems to me fans

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> > > > > > the Joke from a "rawk" background hear something I don't. I once

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> > > > > > fan who belived they inspired house music! He was a wrong and so

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