[kj] OT- Alex, Johnny speaks of the Ramones

[iPat]

The Buzzcocks were not ramones influenced(note the dates):

Slaughter & The Dogs
Hailing from the notoriously tough Manchester suburb of Wythenshawe
(once the skinhead capital of the North) Slaughter & The Dogs
originally formed when Wayne Barrett (vocals) and Mick Rossi (guitar)
got togetther at school and decided to start a band picking up
drummer, Brian (Mad Muffett) Grantham on a bus along the way! Bassist
Howared 'Zip' Bates joined them in late 1975. Wayne thought up the
name for the band whilst lying in bed prior to their first gig.... a
mixture of Diamond Dogs by Bowie and Slaughter on 5th Avenue By Mick
Ronson.

Buzzcocks
The band was formed in 1975 by guitarist/singer Pete Shelley (real
name Peter McNeish) and singer Howard Devoto (real name Howard
Trafford), both students at Bolton Institute of Technology (now the
University of Bolton). They shared common interests in electronic
music, the idiosyncratic work of British musician Brian Eno, and
American protopunk groups like The Stooges and The Velvet Underground.
In late 1975, Shelley and Devoto recruited a drummer and formed an
embryonic version of Buzzcocks that never performed and which
dissolved after a number of rehearsals.

and:

After reading an NME review of the Sex Pistols' first performance,
Shelley and Devoto travelled to London together to see the Sex Pistols
in February 1976. Shelley and Devoto were impressed by what they saw
and arranged for the Sex Pistols to come and perform at the Lesser
Free Trade Hall in Manchester, in June 1976. Buzzcocks intended to
play at this concert, but the other musicians dropped out, and Shelley
and Devoto were unable to recruit other musicians in time for the gig.
Once they had recruited bass guitarist Steve Diggle and drummer John
Maher, they made their debut opening for the Sex Pistols' second
Manchester concert in July 1976. A brief clip of Devoto-era Buzzcocks
performing The Troggs "I Can't Control Myself" appears in the Punk:
Attitude documentary directed by Don Letts. In September of 1976 the
band travelled to London to perform at the two-day 100 Club Punk
Festival, organized by Malcolm McLaren. Other performers included: the
Sex Pistols, Subway Sect, Siouxsie & the Banshees, The Clash, The
Vibrators, The Damned and the French band Stinky Toys.

The Ramones: signed to a recording contract by Seymour Stein of Sire
Records in Autumn 1975. They soon recorded their debut album, Ramones
on an extremely low budget; about $6,400. The band was plagued by
hostile audience reactions outside of New York City; it wasn't until
they made a small tour of England that they began to see the fruits of
their labor: a performance at The Roundhouse in London on July 4, 1976

so at least two accepted first wave bands were pre Ramones, totally
free from that scene