[kj] Youth........................
Alexander Smith
vassifer at earthlink.net
Fri Feb 29 11:40:04 EST 2008
Again, --- IN MY OPINION -- titling the composition "Glade" is already
a sly acknowledgement of the track's inarguable ties to "A Forrest".
Alex in NYC
On Feb 29, 2008, at 11:00 AM, Termite wrote:
> And actually it is a Come As You Are/Eighties discrepancy, the
> keyboards at the beginning are identical to A Forest, same notes,
> same sound, same tempo even.
>
> Massive Attack acknowledged their sample of 10:15 Saturday Night on
> Mezzanine, no reason why Transmission couldn't have done the same
> same and credited Smith/Tolhurst/Gallup in the sleeve notes!
>
> Ok back to my cave I guess better than to voice opinion on this
> forum.....
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: Alexander Smith
> To: A list about all things Killing Joke (the band!)
> Sent: Friday, February 29, 2008 3:26 PM
> Subject: Re: [kj] Youth........................
>
>
> I'm just suggesting that calling it a "rip off" is a bit crass and
> alarmist. I doubt the Cure are particularly bothered about whether
> the track is credited to them or not. I mean, the damn track is
> called "Glade" (i.e. an open space in a forrest). It's clearly a
> reference and/or homage to the Cure track.
>
> This isn't a "Come As You Are"/"Eighties" sort of discrepancy at all.
>
> Alex in NYC
>
>
> On Feb 29, 2008, at 9:59 AM, Termite wrote:
>
>> I love Transmissions album, and I love The Cure too, if it was a
>> homage then why not state so? They were not trying to convince
>> anyone that the track WASNT their own either?!?!, so maybe if you
>> don't like to chose the words "rip off" then its "unreported homage"
>>
>> Has either Big Paul or Youth ever throughout any interviews stated
>> they are Cure fans?
>> ----- Original Message -----
>> From: Alexander Smith
>> To: A list about all things Killing Joke (the band!)
>> Sent: Friday, February 29, 2008 2:36 PM
>> Subject: Re: [kj] Youth........................
>>
>> I wouldn't call it a "rip off" so much as an obvious homage.
>> There's NO MISSING that it's based on "A Forrest." A rip-off would
>> imply that they were trying to convince people that the track was
>> their own.
>>
>> Alex in NYC
>>
>>
>>
>> On Feb 29, 2008, at 9:26 AM, Termite wrote:
>>
>>> Tried listening to anything by Transmission? That is Youth and
>>> Big Paul, sounds like a more ambient version of The Cure
>>> especially songs like Star Stella and Glade (A very close Cure's A
>>> forest instrumental rip off)
>>> ----- Original Message -----
>>> From: fluke fluke
>>> To: gathering at misera.net
>>> Sent: Friday, February 29, 2008 2:09 PM
>>> Subject: [kj] Youth........................
>>>
>>>
>>> Anyone know what kind of music he has been making recently?
>>> Is he still into Goan trance and techno and all that or has his
>>> tastes changed /
>>> I was wondering what direction the new impending KJ album will
>>> take because the Yyouth influence on the Pandemonium Album is all
>>> to apparent
>>>
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>>> Charades!
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