[kj] Youth........................

Alexander Smith vassifer at earthlink.net
Fri Feb 29 11:40:04 EST 2008


Again, --- IN MY OPINION -- titling the composition "Glade" is already
a sly acknowledgement of the track's inarguable ties to "A Forrest".

Alex in NYC


On Feb 29, 2008, at 11:00 AM, Termite wrote:


> And actually it is a Come As You Are/Eighties discrepancy, the

> keyboards at the beginning are identical to A Forest, same notes,

> same sound, same tempo even.

>

> Massive Attack acknowledged their sample of 10:15 Saturday Night on

> Mezzanine, no reason why Transmission couldn't have done the same

> same and credited Smith/Tolhurst/Gallup in the sleeve notes!

>

> Ok back to my cave I guess better than to voice opinion on this

> forum.....

>

> ----- Original Message -----

> From: Alexander Smith

> To: A list about all things Killing Joke (the band!)

> Sent: Friday, February 29, 2008 3:26 PM

> Subject: Re: [kj] Youth........................

>

>

> I'm just suggesting that calling it a "rip off" is a bit crass and

> alarmist. I doubt the Cure are particularly bothered about whether

> the track is credited to them or not. I mean, the damn track is

> called "Glade" (i.e. an open space in a forrest). It's clearly a

> reference and/or homage to the Cure track.

>

> This isn't a "Come As You Are"/"Eighties" sort of discrepancy at all.

>

> Alex in NYC

>

>

> On Feb 29, 2008, at 9:59 AM, Termite wrote:

>

>> I love Transmissions album, and I love The Cure too, if it was a

>> homage then why not state so? They were not trying to convince

>> anyone that the track WASNT their own either?!?!, so maybe if you

>> don't like to chose the words "rip off" then its "unreported homage"

>>

>> Has either Big Paul or Youth ever throughout any interviews stated

>> they are Cure fans?

>> ----- Original Message -----

>> From: Alexander Smith

>> To: A list about all things Killing Joke (the band!)

>> Sent: Friday, February 29, 2008 2:36 PM

>> Subject: Re: [kj] Youth........................

>>

>> I wouldn't call it a "rip off" so much as an obvious homage.

>> There's NO MISSING that it's based on "A Forrest." A rip-off would

>> imply that they were trying to convince people that the track was

>> their own.

>>

>> Alex in NYC

>>

>>

>>

>> On Feb 29, 2008, at 9:26 AM, Termite wrote:

>>

>>> Tried listening to anything by Transmission? That is Youth and

>>> Big Paul, sounds like a more ambient version of The Cure

>>> especially songs like Star Stella and Glade (A very close Cure's A

>>> forest instrumental rip off)

>>> ----- Original Message -----

>>> From: fluke fluke

>>> To: gathering at misera.net

>>> Sent: Friday, February 29, 2008 2:09 PM

>>> Subject: [kj] Youth........................

>>>

>>>

>>> Anyone know what kind of music he has been making recently?

>>> Is he still into Goan trance and techno and all that or has his

>>> tastes changed /

>>> I was wondering what direction the new impending KJ album will

>>> take because the Yyouth influence on the Pandemonium Album is all

>>> to apparent

>>>

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