[kj] Youth........................
fluke fluke
fluke1 at live.co.uk
Fri Feb 29 12:01:11 EST 2008
Well it does seem like a jolly good guitar riff and it would be a shame to waste such a good riff on just one song.
From: vassifer at earthlink.netTo: gathering at misera.netDate: Fri, 29 Feb 2008 11:40:04 -0500Subject: Re: [kj] Youth........................
Again, --- IN MY OPINION -- titling the composition "Glade" is already a sly acknowledgement of the track's inarguable ties to "A Forrest".
Alex in NYC
On Feb 29, 2008, at 11:00 AM, Termite wrote:
And actually it is a Come As You Are/Eighties discrepancy, the keyboards at the beginning are identical to A Forest, same notes, same sound, same tempo even.
Massive Attack acknowledged their sample of 10:15 Saturday Night on Mezzanine, no reason why Transmission couldn't have done the same same and credited Smith/Tolhurst/Gallup in the sleeve notes!
Ok back to my cave I guess better than to voice opinion on this forum.....
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From: Alexander Smith
To: A list about all things Killing Joke (the band!)
Sent: Friday, February 29, 2008 3:26 PM
Subject: Re: [kj] Youth........................
I'm just suggesting that calling it a "rip off" is a bit crass and alarmist. I doubt the Cure are particularly bothered about whether the track is credited to them or not. I mean, the damn track is called "Glade" (i.e. an open space in a forrest). It's clearly a reference and/or homage to the Cure track.
This isn't a "Come As You Are"/"Eighties" sort of discrepancy at all.
Alex in NYC
On Feb 29, 2008, at 9:59 AM, Termite wrote:
I love Transmissions album, and I love The Cure too, if it was a homage then why not state so? They were not trying to convince anyone that the track WASNT their own either?!?!, so maybe if you don't like to chose the words "rip off" then its "unreported homage"
Has either Big Paul or Youth ever throughout any interviews stated they are Cure fans?
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From: Alexander Smith
To: A list about all things Killing Joke (the band!)
Sent: Friday, February 29, 2008 2:36 PM
Subject: Re: [kj] Youth........................
I wouldn't call it a "rip off" so much as an obvious homage. There's NO MISSING that it's based on "A Forrest." A rip-off would imply that they were trying to convince people that the track was their own.
Alex in NYC
On Feb 29, 2008, at 9:26 AM, Termite wrote:
Tried listening to anything by Transmission? That is Youth and Big Paul, sounds like a more ambient version of The Cure especially songs like Star Stella and Glade (A very close Cure's A forest instrumental rip off)
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From: fluke fluke
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Sent: Friday, February 29, 2008 2:09 PM
Subject: [kj] Youth........................
Anyone know what kind of music he has been making recently? Is he still into Goan trance and techno and all that or has his tastes changed /I was wondering what direction the new impending KJ album will take because the Yyouth influence on the Pandemonium Album is all to apparent
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