[kj] Thread attempt one: ex's back -- now POPE Brendan Sydney...

[GREG SLAWSON]

I wore my early 80s Gang of Four shirt today(which fits me like a condom now) and a guy actually knew the band, saying "wow, they go back a long way!". I also have a "Fuck the Vote" shirt which i will be wearing a lot until November...> Date: Sat, 19 Jul 2008 18:43:06 +1200> From: bq at soundgardener.co.nz> To: gathering at misera.net> Subject: Re: [kj] Thread attempt one: ex's back -- now POPE Brendan Sydney...> > That would be perfect! There's catholics wandering all over the place,> singing songs etc...how can I get one of those t-shirts ASAP? Does anyone> have a scan of that pic that I could take into a shirt printing place?> I'll get it done immediately if I can...what a brilliant idea! I'm> wandering around in a completely inoffensive Soundgarden t-shirt at the> moment.> > I'll have to brush up on my Jiu Jitsu as well cos I'm bound to get the> shit kicked out of me, there's some surprisingly thuggish catholics> wandering around...> > It's funny checking out the wry looks some of the the young goths give the> catholics :)> > But by and large it's a nice atmosphere. PERFECT chance for me to rain on> their parade...> > > > veering off on a wild tangent...> >  > >    So, another Brendan from another green Island heads off across the> > ocean, to where the Pope was playing tonight: did you wear your Killing> > JokeNazi Pope shirt, as is required under the rules?> >  > > gotta luv the m***f***kin' shoes, everytime:> > http://d.yimg.com/us.yimg.com/p/rids/20080713/i/r1537946344.jpg> > and God's Goalkeeper w/his defensive line:> > http://d.yimg.com/us.yimg.com/p/rids/20080714/i/r461087373.jpg> >  > >  > >  > >> >> > ... ... ... ... ... ...> > (looking at the current state of things)> >> > 'Save me..                                                > >  save me from Tomorrow..                          > >  I don't want to sail in this Ship Of Fools...!'  > >> > --- On Thu, 7/17/08, Brendan <bq at soundgardener.co.nz> wrote:> >> > From: Brendan <bq at soundgardener.co.nz>> > Subject: Re: [kj] Thread attempt one: ex's back> > To: "A list about all things Killing Joke (the band!)"> > <gathering at misera.net>> > Date: Thursday, July 17, 2008, 8:40 PM> >> > This is the skinny on training with weights and its effect on athletic> > performance, so listen up you skinny little runts ;)> >> > The myth that resistance exercise is no good for athletic performance> > largely stems from the results of american athletes in the 70s. They> > started using weights, contrary to popular opinion that weights make one> > 'muscle-bound' (which is true but generally only in the absence of a> > commensurate stretching routine). The problem is that they used> > bodybuilding protocols, because they were seen as the experts on gym> > training, when in fact most bodybuilders aren't that au fait with how the> > body adapts to exercise at all, in particular not in terms of athletic> > performance. Bodybuilding training protocols are geared towards maximum> > muscular hypertrophy (size), as opposed to athletic performance.> > Bodybuilding protocols in general are:> >> > more isolation vs compound movements - proper athletic conditioning> > includes both, with more of an emphasis on compound explosive movements,> > however isolation exercises always have their place, especially in> > correcting imbalances, strengthening weak links (forearms, calves for> > example) and rehab / prehab. One of the easiest ways to increase a big> > lift is to use islation movements to shore up a weak link that is holding> > the movement back...> >> > slower movements - slow contractions train the muscle to contract slowly,> > which is not what you want in most sports. Athletes should generally train> > with fast contractions, and relatively slower eccentric (lowering)...I can> > explain why the slow eccentric is important if you want, it's a bit> > involved. Generally though a range of tempos should be used...> >> > volume over intensity - more work at a lower work rate. The morern> > understanding is that intensity is more important than volume, although a> > certain amount of volume is required to build work capacity / endurance.> > Horses for courses...> >> > Lighter weights - the slow movements and long workouts dictate that> > lighter weights (relative to what the individual is capable of of course)> > are used...> >> > In fact, the lifts, distances, times, etc in nearly every single sport> > have been increased dramatically with the adoption of proper athletic> > resistance training. Your friend is probably right if he was pointing and> > laughing at bodybuilders...except it probably wasn't their goal to be able> > to perform athletically, getting bigger muscles was their goal. Whether> > that's laudable in itself is a matter of opinion I suppose, I have my own> > but won't share :)> >> > At the end of the day, increased muscle size increases the potential (note> > I said potential) for increased strength, and increased strength increases> > the potential for increased size. Training that incorporates both methods> > is optimal for many sports, with an emphasis on whatever particular> > physical traits are important to that sport, such as strength, speed,> > endurance, or flexibility.> >> >>    Been thinking of restarting my old routine. Between working out> >> and hiking (locally in Griffith Park) twice a week physically it was the> >> best time of my life.> >>    I used to do a pyramid each of squats, back extensions (flexing> >> upper back also), pullups, pushups (wide-grip,shoulder-width, and> >> narrow-) dips, and military press, in about that order .I would throw in> >> dive-bomber pushups and Pilates if i start it up again.> >>    I'd do abs after warming up, I never used any weights, just a> > pullup> >> bar at home and a pair of heavy leather boots for the military press> >> and it was a whole lot more fun and effective than doing weights and> >> going to a gym and running into those 'roided lab-experiments seducing> >> themselves in all the mirrors.> >>   Very early on I worked  at a YMCA and i asked a former Navy SEAL> >> what he thought about all the size queens on the free weight floors and> >> he just honestly laughed, said there was absolutely no advantage in it> >> whatsoever, period.> >>  > >>> >>> >>> >> ... ... ... ... ... ...> >> (looking at the current state of things)> >>> >> 'Save> > me..                                                > >>  save me from Tomorrow..                 > >         > >>  I don't want to sail in this Ship Of Fools...!'  > >>> >> --- On Wed, 7/16/08, Brendan <bq at soundgardener.co.nz> wrote:> >>> >> From: Brendan <bq at soundgardener.co.nz>> >> Subject: Re: [kj] Thread attempt one: ex's back> >> To: "A list about all things Killing Joke (the band!)"> >> <gathering at misera.net>> >> Date: Wednesday, July 16, 2008, 6:38 PM> >>> >> A lot of ppl are after tha 'best' ab exercise...I do a range of> > 10-15 or> >> so different exercises (most done on the floor with bodyweight or> >> perhaps> >> a medicine ball for external resistance) over the course of a 3-month or> >> so program, also modifying the volume, intensity, prioritisation, and> >> tempo, along a continuum going from light, isolated, slow movements at> >> the> >> beginning, to harder, quicker, more compound movements towards the end> >> of> >> the program. A single exercise and single set / rep scheme is> >> sub-optimal,> >> and will in fact lead to muslce imbalances over time.> >>> >> The exercise you mention is an absolute killer, but it's a compromise.> > It> >> works the upper abs and hip flexors simultaneously, the nervous system> >> is> >> also taxed initially because it has to learn a relatively complex> >> movement> >> involving balancing the body while performing two different joint> >> flexions> >> patterns...you're flexing the trunk and also flexing at the hip. But> >> because you're doing two joint movements simultaneously, there are> > some> >> advantages and some disadvantages. Mixed training = mixed results, as> >> they> >> say. There is very little rotation, side flexion, and no real postural> >> recruitment. No exercise provides all that. Yoga and Pilates do however,> >> as performed undre a good teacher.> >>> >> I just wrote a big spiel on ab training and back pain, lost it when I> >> went> >> to put on some music on this PC, will re-do it sometime if anyone is> >> interested. Basically though, go to Pilates or Yoga because they are> >> great, I've done both and both have helped with back pain and more :)> > But> >> ab training is probably at most 25% of lower back injury prevention /> >> rehab...you also need to consider stretching, massage, posture,> >> nutrition> >> / hydration, assymetrical activities, mindset / stress, etc...> >>> >>>   What are those situps called where you do a crunch while pulling> > your> >>> knees up> >>> to your stomach? Supposed to be the best thing ever...> >>>> >>>  > >>> ... ... ... ... ... ...> >>> (looking at the current state of things)> >>>> >>> 'Save> >>> > me..                                                > >>>  save me from Tomorrow..                 > >>         > >>>  I don't want to sail in this Ship Of Fools...!'  > >>>> >>> --- On Wed, 7/16/08, folk devil <folkdevil_23 at hotmail.com>> > wrote:> >>>> >>> From: folk devil <folkdevil_23 at hotmail.com>> >>> Subject: Re: [kj] Thread attempt one: ex's back> >>> To: "A list about all things Killing Joke (the band!)"> >>> <gathering at misera.net>> >>> Date: Wednesday, July 16, 2008, 8:14 AM> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>> #yiv537169317 .hmmessage P> >>> {> >>> margin:0px;padding:0px;}> >>> #yiv537169317 {> >>> FONT-SIZE:10pt;FONT-FAMILY:Tahoma;}> >>>> >>> strengthen your abs first, otherwise your back is always going to give> >>> you> >>> grief..> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>> Date: Wed, 16 Jul 2008 01:56:50 -0400> >>> From: killingjoke at theimmortalfool.com> >>> To: gathering at misera.net> >>> Subject: Re: [kj] Thread attempt one: Poll> >>>> >>> Had back issues for a long long time. I did cut down on my biking> > since> >>> I> >>> started handball.> >>> Only did 20 miles today earlier (Had time off in the afternoon). Then> >>> handball at night for 1 hour.> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>> With Windows Live for mobile, your contacts travel with you. 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