[kj] Sex Pistols singer faces race attack claims

Brendan bq at soundgardener.co.nz
Tue Jul 22 23:28:30 EDT 2008


People, even kids, know when they are being patronised. Was reading an
article about a study that showed that kids who are regularly lauded for
'effort' and 'trying hard', all that shit, well basically it has a
negative effect. Kids KNOW that performance and achievement is important,
all that smiley glad-hands treatment, giving kids certificates for turning
up to school twice in a row on time or not drooling over themselves
today...it's crap, and we're gonna end up breeding a population of
hapless, entitled cretins.

I suppose often it's got the right intentions behind it, but we all know
the saying about the road to hell. Or was that an AC/DC song...?

As a bit of a slow learner and awkward kid at school, what I actually
appreciated was some one-on-on with a patient teacher who took the time to
go through what I was having difficulty with, in a way tailored to how I
learned, away from the spotlight of other kids who were already good at
it. My reward was the achievement, then the good press from the teacher or
family or peers was genuine.


> Mr. Okereke is also gay; either stuff.co.nz and Lydon's thuggish

> "associates" are unaware of this (I am not aware of Mr Okereke's uniform

> of

> choice being a glittery spandex catsuit and spaceman's helmet) or they had

> to concede that his being black was merely a more apparent target.

>

> I have also met many people who have attempted to take advantage of what

> their behaviour implies they regard as a stigma; I'm equal opportunities,

> me

> - I'll be offensive to anyone who's offensive, regardless of their

> hangups.

> Did a lot of work with mentally & physically handicapped a few years back

> -

> they actively encouraged me to call them spackas (incidentally, great use

> of

> "spacka" in "Control", I thought). I concluded they were generally tired

> of

> the opposite treatment - the patronising deference.

>

> Darren

> Hungerford, UK

>

> NB My oldest friend, and recently my best man, is a Gaylord, so there's no

> agenda here.

>

>

> -----Original Message-----

> From: gathering-bounces at misera.net [mailto:gathering-bounces at misera.net]

> On

> Behalf Of ade

> Sent: 22 July 2008 12:33

> To: A list about all things Killing Joke (the band!)

> Subject: Re: [kj] Sex Pistols singer faces race attack claims

> Importance: High

>

> Years ago, my asian/muslim mate (Moh) was recounting to me the time his

> car

> overheated & he was fucking about under the bonnet, trying to sort it out.

> He reminisced about how he went to a nearby shop to get some help & was

> embarrassed 'cos his hands were covered in oil & were black from it. It

> was

> just a conversation about car woes.

>

> At this point my black friend jumped in & started challenging seriously as

> to "What's wrong with having black hands?"

>

> It occurred to me & Moh that the prick was nothing more than a race-card

> playing wanker, of which there are MANY. You know, those people that my

> lefty friends don't believe exist.

>

> Sounds a bit like this story too, though I admit my bias in favour of

> Lydon.

> Nevertheless, I can imagine his thicko mates behaving in typical grunt

> fashion, but was that John? We shall see...

>

>

> ade.

>

> PS. I LOVE DOUBLE-STANDARDS, OF COURSE THEY DON'T HARM SOCIETY & BREED

> RESENTMENT - THAT'S FOR RACISTS. Whatever 'racist' means these days.

> INJUSTICE FOR ALL!!!!!

>

>

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