[kj] Sex Pistols singer faces race attack claims

[GREG SLAWSON]

I pretty much agree w/ you on this Brendan. As a US high school special education teacher, I don't spend a lot of time giving paper-thin praise to my students--when they do get good grades, that's praise enough for them. (And I 'm pretty honest about telling them when they're doing well and when they're not). Also, about 10 years ago I worked teaching dyslexic adults how to read--they needed no praise at all; they were happier than a pig in shit every time their reading improved a bit!> Date: Wed, 23 Jul 2008 15:28:30 +1200> From: bq at soundgardener.co.nz> To: gathering at misera.net> Subject: Re: [kj] Sex Pistols singer faces race attack claims> > People, even kids, know when they are being patronised. Was reading an> article about a study that showed that kids who are regularly lauded for> 'effort' and 'trying hard', all that shit, well basically it has a> negative effect. Kids KNOW that performance and achievement is important,> all that smiley glad-hands treatment, giving kids certificates for turning> up to school twice in a row on time or not drooling over themselves> today...it's crap, and we're gonna end up breeding a population of> hapless, entitled cretins.> > I suppose often it's got the right intentions behind it, but we all know> the saying about the road to hell. Or was that an AC/DC song...?> > As a bit of a slow learner and awkward kid at school, what I actually> appreciated was some one-on-on with a patient teacher who took the time to> go through what I was having difficulty with, in a way tailored to how I> learned, away from the spotlight of other kids who were already good at> it. My reward was the achievement, then the good press from the teacher or> family or peers was genuine.> > > Mr. Okereke is also gay; either stuff.co.nz and Lydon's thuggish> > "associates" are unaware of this (I am not aware of Mr Okereke's uniform> > of> > choice being a glittery spandex catsuit and spaceman's helmet) or they had> > to concede that his being black was merely a more apparent target.> >> > I have also met many people who have attempted to take advantage of what> > their behaviour implies they regard as a stigma; I'm equal opportunities,> > me> > - I'll be offensive to anyone who's offensive, regardless of their> > hangups.> > Did a lot of work with mentally & physically handicapped a few years back> > -> > they actively encouraged me to call them spackas (incidentally, great use> > of> > "spacka" in "Control", I thought). I concluded they were generally tired> > of> > the opposite treatment - the patronising deference.> >> > Darren> > Hungerford, UK> >> > NB My oldest friend, and recently my best man, is a Gaylord, so there's no> > agenda here.> >> >> > -----Original Message-----> > From: gathering-bounces at misera.net [mailto:gathering-bounces at misera.net]> > On> > Behalf Of ade> > Sent: 22 July 2008 12:33> > To: A list about all things Killing Joke (the band!)> > Subject: Re: [kj] Sex Pistols singer faces race attack claims> > Importance: High> >> > Years ago, my asian/muslim mate (Moh) was recounting to me the time his> > car> > overheated & he was fucking about under the bonnet, trying to sort it out.> > He reminisced about how he went to a nearby shop to get some help & was> > embarrassed 'cos his hands were covered in oil & were black from it. It> > was> > just a conversation about car woes.> >> > At this point my black friend jumped in & started challenging seriously as> > to "What's wrong with having black hands?"> >> > It occurred to me & Moh that the prick was nothing more than a race-card> > playing wanker, of which there are MANY. You know, those people that my> > lefty friends don't believe exist.> >> > Sounds a bit like this story too, though I admit my bias in favour of> > Lydon.> > Nevertheless, I can imagine his thicko mates behaving in typical grunt> > fashion, but was that John? We shall see...> >> >> > ade.> >> > PS. I LOVE DOUBLE-STANDARDS, OF COURSE THEY DON'T HARM SOCIETY & BREED> > RESENTMENT - THAT'S FOR RACISTS. Whatever 'racist' means these days.> > INJUSTICE FOR ALL!!!!!> >> >> > _______________________________________________> > Gathering mailing list> > Gathering at misera.net> > http://four.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/gathering> >> > > _______________________________________________> Gathering mailing list> Gathering at misera.net> http://four.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/gathering
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