[kj] Sex Pistols singer faces race attack claims

[pssyche23]

T'was the "Campaign For Nuclear Disarmament" ... at a CND benefit in 
London's Trafalgar Square (Sept 1980?), the rising Killing Joke filled in a 
late replacement for headliners The Specials ... KJ a half hour set and I 
believe Youth said something along the lines of "who gives a fuck about the 
bomb, let's have a party" ... I wasn't there I'm afraid, but did catch them 
at the Lyceum before the end of the year ... :o)

----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Karen Weil" <karen.weil at sddt.com>
To: "A list about all things Killing Joke (the band!)" 
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Sent: Thursday, July 24, 2008 6:56 PM
Subject: Re: [kj] Sex Pistols singer faces race attack claims



> CND concert? What does CND stand for?

>

> Thanks,

>

> k.w.

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> From: "iPat" <pmdavies at gmail.com>

> To: "A list about all things Killing Joke (the band!)" 

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> Sent: Thursday, July 24, 2008 12:53 AM

> Subject: Re: [kj] Sex Pistols singer faces race attack claims

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>> not what i said at all old boy

>> i never implied any utopian dream. Why do you say that? The discussion

>> was touching on the value of education and the the value of certain

>> jobs. You have imposed your model onto my comments and distorted it in

>> order to keep your 'status' within the group (not that i bear any ill

>> will from it).

>>

>> My comment merely looks at perception, the value of doing what you are

>> doing regardless of the illusion.

>> the illusion is of equality. Its quite apparent that there is no

>> equality and yet people talk about it as if there is. That is simply

>> an illusion. Why live a lie?

>>

>> Killing Joke were right and wrong at the CND concert when they said

>> you wont change anything. In terms of society, because of the reality

>> that the wealth is controlled by a few, change will only be deemed

>> useful to keep evreyone working to the best interests. They were wrong

>> in that you may be a slave to that game because it covers all even if

>> you hide in a cave in tibet, but you dont have to be mentally enslaved

>> or accept their values.

>>

>> I for one appreciate the Doctor but i also appreciate the nurse

>> despite society giving them differing values. I am pleased with the

>> bin collector as much as i am with the school teacher. (nb White Trash

>> by John King is well worth the read as a novel that touches this) The

>> fact that the people who perpetuate the myth that all is fair and

>> equal are the ones paid highly, MPs Lawyers Film producers etc.

>>

>> if we dont join the rat race in keeping the competition over social

>> status alive, then we start to live as a community again, we start to

>> care again. Whats utopian about that?

>>

>>

>> On Wed, Jul 23, 2008 at 4:45 PM, ade <ade at the-lab.zetnet.co.uk> wrote:

>>> I wondered when this one would rear its' head, lol!

>>>

>>> So, are you going to bring about the changes required to rid ourselves

>>> of the current EVIL paymaster/slave structure? I don't like it either,

>>> I wish someone would pay me money for doing nothing, frankly, but you

>>> know the world keeps turning...

>>>

>>> So yeah, we can only live in the moment & make the most of it. Which can

>>> be pretty shitty.

>>>

>>> Would you be the sort of person good enough to take a leadership role

>>> if we revolted, overthrew the existing system, etc, in order to make a

>>> whole new BETTER system? In fact, who would be?

>>>

>>> Please, tell me of you utopian dream.

>>>

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