[kj] Sex Pistols singer faces race attack claims

[Karen Weil]

You must have been a wee lad back then, pssyche! Thanks for the explanation.

k.w.
USA
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> T'was the "Campaign For Nuclear Disarmament" ... at a CND benefit in 

> London's Trafalgar Square (Sept 1980?), the rising Killing Joke filled in 

> a late replacement for headliners The Specials ... KJ a half hour set and 

> I believe Youth said something along the lines of "who gives a fuck about 

> the bomb, let's have a party" ... I wasn't there I'm afraid, but did catch 

> them at the Lyceum before the end of the year ... :o)

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> From: "Karen Weil" <karen.weil at sddt.com>

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>> CND concert? What does CND stand for?

>>

>> Thanks,

>>

>> k.w.

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>> From: "iPat" <pmdavies at gmail.com>

>> To: "A list about all things Killing Joke (the band!)" 

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>> Sent: Thursday, July 24, 2008 12:53 AM

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>>> not what i said at all old boy

>>> i never implied any utopian dream. Why do you say that? The discussion

>>> was touching on the value of education and the the value of certain

>>> jobs. You have imposed your model onto my comments and distorted it in

>>> order to keep your 'status' within the group (not that i bear any ill

>>> will from it).

>>>

>>> My comment merely looks at perception, the value of doing what you are

>>> doing regardless of the illusion.

>>> the illusion is of equality. Its quite apparent that there is no

>>> equality and yet people talk about it as if there is. That is simply

>>> an illusion. Why live a lie?

>>>

>>> Killing Joke were right and wrong at the CND concert when they said

>>> you wont change anything. In terms of society, because of the reality

>>> that the wealth is controlled by a few, change will only be deemed

>>> useful to keep evreyone working to the best interests. They were wrong

>>> in that you may be a slave to that game because it covers all even if

>>> you hide in a cave in tibet, but you dont have to be mentally enslaved

>>> or accept their values.

>>>

>>> I for one appreciate the Doctor but i also appreciate the nurse

>>> despite society giving them differing values. I am pleased with the

>>> bin collector as much as i am with the school teacher. (nb White Trash

>>> by John King is well worth the read as a novel that touches this) The

>>> fact that the people who perpetuate the myth that all is fair and

>>> equal are the ones paid highly, MPs Lawyers Film producers etc.

>>>

>>> if we dont join the rat race in keeping the competition over social

>>> status alive, then we start to live as a community again, we start to

>>> care again. Whats utopian about that?

>>>

>>>

>>> On Wed, Jul 23, 2008 at 4:45 PM, ade <ade at the-lab.zetnet.co.uk> wrote:

>>>> I wondered when this one would rear its' head, lol!

>>>>

>>>> So, are you going to bring about the changes required to rid ourselves

>>>> of the current EVIL paymaster/slave structure? I don't like it either,

>>>> I wish someone would pay me money for doing nothing, frankly, but you

>>>> know the world keeps turning...

>>>>

>>>> So yeah, we can only live in the moment & make the most of it. Which 

>>>> can

>>>> be pretty shitty.

>>>>

>>>> Would you be the sort of person good enough to take a leadership role

>>>> if we revolted, overthrew the existing system, etc, in order to make a

>>>> whole new BETTER system? In fact, who would be?

>>>>

>>>> Please, tell me of you utopian dream.

>>>>

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