[kj] [RE] Metallica Tonight at The Wiltern Theater

[Alexander Smith]

I'm not saying that they never listened to `Maiden, I'm just  
suggesting that they owe a heftier debt to Motorhead.

Alex in NYC


On May 18, 2008, at 2:04 PM, ade wrote:


> Then you need to listen to the chord sequences. I'd say there's a  

> good mix of both of those bands.

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>

> To be fair, I'd sooner suggest that Metallica ripped off Motorhead  

> (which they'd be the first to admit) than Iron Maiden.

>

> Uh oh -- my geeky metal roots are showing.

>

> Alex in NYC

>

>

> On May 18, 2008, at 9:01 AM, ade wrote:

>

>> > I’d rate 80s Metallica superior to 80s Iron Maiden in general.  

>> And great name too.

>>

>> It's a good job Maiden already existed then, for Metallica to  

>> TOTALLY rip them off...

>>

>> Bit like saying those Penny Farthings? Nowhere near as good as my  

>> DMR !!!

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>> ]On Behalf Of Brendan Quinn

>> Sent: 15 May 2008 21:20

>> To: 'A list about all things Killing Joke (the band!)'

>> Subject: Re: [kj] [RE] Metallica Tonight at The Wiltern Theater

>>

>> I got St Anger for free from a radio DJ twat flatmate I had a few  

>> years ago, couldn’t give the thing away, it was like a curse.  

>> Eventually listened to it again after the first listen just through  

>> sheer sense of duty…it’s god awful in my opinion. The title track  

>> St Anger sounds like a weak attempt to beLinkin Park. “Flush it  

>> out, flush it out” *barf*

>> Having said that I’d love the chance to see Metallica, passed it up  

>> several years ago on the strength (weakness) of the pap they were  

>> putting it out, but apparently their live shows still kick ass. Oh  

>> well, I’ll catch them when they’re 80 I suppose. Hetfield’s stance  

>> on guns and all that is another thing that puts me off these days  

>> as well. Metallica were lucky enough to tour with Soundgarden back  

>> in the day…

>> But early Metallica, up to the over-produced but still solid Black  

>> album…great stuff. I’d rate 80s Metallica superior to 80s Iron  

>> Maiden in general. And great name too.

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>> ] On Behalf Of Javier Garcia

>> Sent: Friday, 16 May 2008 6:56 a.m.

>> To: A list about all things Killing Joke (the band!)

>> Subject: [kj] [RE] Metallica Tonight at The Wiltern Theater

>> The setlist is really good! and just as you, i was hoping to get  

>> some news in your message about one or two new songs.

>>

>> I've seen them two times and i can assure you this set-list is way  

>> better than the couple i've had the chance to see (once touring  

>> after the Black Album -the first time they came to Mexico- and the  

>> second one -much better- after they released the 2nd "Garage Days"  

>> in '99)

>>

>> It's a surprise they didn't play but only a very few tracks of  

>> their more successful stage (Black album, Load, Reload). And what's  

>> even more surprising to me is that they didn't played a single song  

>> from "St Anger", it seems they may hate that album right now.

>>

>> I must recognize i'm looking forward to hear something of their new  

>> album. "St. Anger" was not good (still there were a few good  

>> tracks), but at least it was a brave experiment and a clear  

>> evidence they were trying to make something different, i give  

>> credit to the band for stepping away from that "successful" formula  

>> of their three previous albums.

>>

>> I see it this way: their first experiment trying to make something  

>> "new" wasn't good, they may have gained some experience with it,  

>> after this, their next album should sound a lot better than "St  

>> Anger" and still moving forward -musically speaking-. I don't  

>> expect something like back in the 80's days (which i used to like a  

>> lot), but at least some fresh-heavy proposal.

>>

>> Changing topic, but staying on this "metalhead" side, i got the The  

>> Cavalera Conspiracy (Max and Igor Cavalera + guests) "Inflikted"  

>> album and it's pretty good... Pure energy!!

>>

>> Javier

>> mexcity

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>> Date : Thu, 15 May 2008 01:04:06 -0700

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>> From : "T.B." <Partyslammer at socal.rr.com>

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>> To : "A list about all things Killing Joke \(the band!\)" <gathering at misera.net 

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>>

>> Wow. What a great show.

>>

>>

>>

>> Just to offer a bit of background, I'm not a huge Metallica fan. I  

>> have see

>>

>> them 3 times before, once at the beginning of the "And Justice For  

>> All" tour

>>

>> in late '89, early in the Black album tour in '91 with Faith No  

>> More and

>>

>> again the same tour with Guns n' Roses. After that, I lost interest  

>> even

>>

>> though I casually kept up on their post Black album releases.

>>

>>

>>

>> When tickets went on sale for this relatively small benefit show  

>> for a local

>>

>> music conservatory in Silver Lake, I figured it would at least be  

>> cool to

>>

>> see these guys in a small venue.

>>

>>

>>

>> I got to The Wiltern Theater around 6:30 which is usually plenty of  

>> time to

>>

>> get admittance in the pit as long as I'm within the first 200 - 250  

>> in line

>>

>> to get in. Tonight was completely insane though. Probably because  

>> both the

>>

>> floor and the balcony was separate GA, it seemed like *everyone*  

>> going to

>>

>> the show was already there and the line went completely around the  

>> block. I

>>

>> have never seen so many people lined up to get in this venue that  

>> early

>>

>> before the doors opened.

>>

>>

>>

>> Still, they opened the doors around 7:15 and the line moved fast  

>> and I was

>>

>> able to get a great spot just outside the pit about 25 feet back  

>> from the

>>

>> stage. The place filled up really fast and the opening band was  

>> "Scars on

>>

>> Broadway" which was comprised of a few old members of System of a  

>> Down.

>>

>> Pretty decent band, kind of a cross between older Rush and maybe  

>> Anthrax or

>>

>> something. The audience was really well behaved through their set  

>> but you

>>

>> could tell everyone was just waiting to explode Once Metallica took  

>> the

>>

>> stage.

>>

>>

>>

>> And sure enough, just after 9:30, Metallica opened with "Am I Evil"  

>> and the

>>

>> place went nuts. Even though there were lots of signs posted warning

>>

>> against moshing and crowd surfing, there were several pockets of it  

>> going on

>>

>> through most of the show although by the last third of the show, it  

>> kind of

>>

>> died down especially after it appeared several people got pretty  

>> badly

>>

>> injured. Also I saw paramedics come in and haul at least two really  

>> wasted

>>

>> guys out from the front late in the show.

>>

>>

>>

>> The band itself was just incredibly tight from start to finish.  

>> Everyone

>>

>> seemed at the top of their game. Absolutely no weak links in the  

>> band at

>>

>> all. The sounded as muscular and precise as any time in the late  

>> 80's, imo.

>>

>> The sound was really fuckin' loud yet perfect sounding. From a  

>> musical

>>

>> standpoint, I couldn't ask for better. James rarely sang and played  

>> center

>>

>> stage, he usually stayed either on the right or left side mics while

>>

>> Trujillo and Hammit traded center stage. Hetfield only briefly  

>> spoke to the

>>

>> audience a few times about the reason for the benefit and the band  

>> pretty

>>

>> much just slammed through the set non stop.

>>

>>

>>

>> A cool part of the encore was when Red Hot Chili Peppers bassist  

>> Flea joined

>>

>> the band for "Fight Fire With Fire."

>>

>>

>>

>> The only downside was no new stuff from the upcoming album was  

>> played.

>>

>>

>>

>> Other than that, a superb show.

>>

>>

>>

>> setlist:

>>

>>

>>

>> Am I Evil

>>

>> Fuel

>>

>> For Whom The Bell Tolls

>>

>> Sanitarium

>>

>> And Justice For All

>>

>> Sad But True

>>

>> Disposable Heroes

>>

>> One

>>

>> Master Of Puppets

>>

>> Battery

>>

>> Encore 1:

>>

>> Quick jam/Last Caress/Green Hell

>>

>> No Remorse

>>

>> Enter Sandman

>>

>> Encore 2:

>>

>> Fight Fire With Fire (Flea guesting on Bass)

>>

>> Seek And Destroy

>>

>>

>>

>> T.B.

>>

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